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		<title>By: watcher68</title>
		<link>http://iowaindependent.com/5891/king-sees-some-truth-in-far-fetched-north-american-union-conspiracy/comment-page-1#comment-24471</link>
		<dc:creator>watcher68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 05:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ladies and gentlemen, the corridor plans are not fiction. Please look at www dot Canamex dot org. Spelled out here just in case there are link blockers on this comment site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ladies and gentlemen, the corridor plans are not fiction. Please look at www dot Canamex dot org. Spelled out here just in case there are link blockers on this comment site.</p>
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		<title>By: watcher68</title>
		<link>http://iowaindependent.com/5891/king-sees-some-truth-in-far-fetched-north-american-union-conspiracy/comment-page-1#comment-19536</link>
		<dc:creator>watcher68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ladies and gentlemen, the corridor plans are not fiction. Please look at www dot Canamex dot org. Spelled out here just in case there are link blockers on this comment site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ladies and gentlemen, the corridor plans are not fiction. Please look at www dot Canamex dot org. Spelled out here just in case there are link blockers on this comment site.</p>
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		<title>By: watcher68</title>
		<link>http://iowaindependent.com/5891/king-sees-some-truth-in-far-fetched-north-american-union-conspiracy/comment-page-1#comment-13566</link>
		<dc:creator>watcher68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ladies and gentlemen, the corridor plans are not fiction. Please look at www dot Canamex dot org. Spelled out here just in case there are link blockers on this comment site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ladies and gentlemen, the corridor plans are not fiction. Please look at www dot Canamex dot org. Spelled out here just in case there are link blockers on this comment site.</p>
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		<title>By: daddysteve</title>
		<link>http://iowaindependent.com/5891/king-sees-some-truth-in-far-fetched-north-american-union-conspiracy/comment-page-1#comment-13547</link>
		<dc:creator>daddysteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>riverdog9- I agree, you won&#039;t find any official using the term &quot; North American Union&quot; . Of course they don&#039;t use the words torture and kidnapping either. It&#039;s called &quot;extraordinary rendition&quot;. I guess torture doesn&#039;t exist. I guess corporate welfare doesn&#039;t exist because they call it &quot;lobbying&quot; . The Consumer Price Index and GDP aren&#039;t manipulated, they&#039;re &quot;adjusted heuristically&quot; . The military is never guilty of murder, it&#039;s only collateral damage. Politicians don&#039;t pander, they &quot;move to the center&quot; .  If you really want to get your tin-foil in a bunch then check out &quot;chemtrails&quot;. There&#039;s a conspiracy I&#039;ve been observing in the sky for months.now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>riverdog9- I agree, you won&#39;t find any official using the term &#8221; North American Union&#8221; . Of course they don&#39;t use the words torture and kidnapping either. It&#39;s called &#8220;extraordinary rendition&#8221;. I guess torture doesn&#39;t exist. I guess corporate welfare doesn&#39;t exist because they call it &#8220;lobbying&#8221; . The Consumer Price Index and GDP aren&#39;t manipulated, they&#39;re &#8220;adjusted heuristically&#8221; . The military is never guilty of murder, it&#39;s only collateral damage. Politicians don&#39;t pander, they &#8220;move to the center&#8221; .  If you really want to get your tin-foil in a bunch then check out &#8220;chemtrails&#8221;. There&#39;s a conspiracy I&#39;ve been observing in the sky for months.now.</p>
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		<title>By: riverdog9</title>
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		<dc:creator>riverdog9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you dig deeper.  If you have any facts to back up your theories, post links to reputable sources that support what you are saying, which is what Doug Burns did.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You and Peggy have been flinging accusations of bias at a reporter who took the trouble to write about what King said, then investigate the underlying facts and report on those, with sources that he disclosed.  So far, all I have read here is a lot of empty nonsense about how terrible Burns is, but not one word to contradict any fact he cited.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; It reminds me of the Steven Colbert line about how &quot;the facts have a well-known liberal bias.&quot;  Or the anonymous administration official who declared to Ron Suskind that there was something called &quot;the reality-based community,&quot; which would witness them making up their own reality.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The game&#039;s up, folks.  Bush is leaving, finally.  And taking his Cheney and his torture and his eavesdropping on Americans with him.  We will see whether the Fifth District of Iowa &quot;doesn&#039;t care,&quot; and retains one of Bush&#039;s loyal footsoldiers to represent their very pressing and serious economic interests in the Congress of the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you dig deeper.  If you have any facts to back up your theories, post links to reputable sources that support what you are saying, which is what Doug Burns did.  </p>
<p>You and Peggy have been flinging accusations of bias at a reporter who took the trouble to write about what King said, then investigate the underlying facts and report on those, with sources that he disclosed.  So far, all I have read here is a lot of empty nonsense about how terrible Burns is, but not one word to contradict any fact he cited.</p>
<p> It reminds me of the Steven Colbert line about how &#8220;the facts have a well-known liberal bias.&#8221;  Or the anonymous administration official who declared to Ron Suskind that there was something called &#8220;the reality-based community,&#8221; which would witness them making up their own reality.  </p>
<p>The game&#39;s up, folks.  Bush is leaving, finally.  And taking his Cheney and his torture and his eavesdropping on Americans with him.  We will see whether the Fifth District of Iowa &#8220;doesn&#39;t care,&#8221; and retains one of Bush&#39;s loyal footsoldiers to represent their very pressing and serious economic interests in the Congress of the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: daddysteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>daddysteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>riverdog9, I reiterate. What was going on in Canada? What was going on in Texas? Dig deeper. Get away from the neocon rags you get your news from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>riverdog9, I reiterate. What was going on in Canada? What was going on in Texas? Dig deeper. Get away from the neocon rags you get your news from.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction: I don&#039;t care.  And neither does anybody else in the Fifth District.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: I don&#39;t care.  And neither does anybody else in the Fifth District.</p>
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		<title>By: riverdog9</title>
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		<dc:creator>riverdog9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Translation:  I got nuthin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Translation:  I got nuthin&#39;.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burns has proven himself to be a biased journalist time and time again.  I have no use for his trumped up articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burns has proven himself to be a biased journalist time and time again.  I have no use for his trumped up articles.</p>
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		<title>By: riverdog9</title>
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		<dc:creator>riverdog9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am no one&#039;s webmaster.  The only things I try to master are facts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I notice that you tend to take aim at the messenger rather than engage on the message in your comments here.  Today is no exception.  You have attacked Burns, but are silent on what, exactly, is inaccurate in what he wrote.  Did he quote King accurately, so far as you know?  Did you read at any of the links he included?  Do you share King&#039;s beliefs, as quoted here?  If so, why?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is an excerpt from the SPLC article that I cited.  You might want to read the whole thing, then encourage Congressman King to focus his attention on real problems next time you see him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;The &#039;North American Union&#039;&lt;br&gt;Since 2005, the dominant conspiracy theory animating the anti-immigration movement has been the so-called &quot;North American Union,&quot; described as a plot to surrender American sovereignty in a planned merger with Canada and Mexico. The plotters are typically said to be various foreign leaders, President George W. Bush and his &quot;neo-conservative&quot; allies, and an array of leading American liberals.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If the John Birch Society (JBS) and others pushing this theory are to be believed, President Bush began ceding American sovereignty on March 23, 2005, at a meeting in Waco, Texas, with Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin and Mexican President Vicente Fox. The meeting ended with the signing of what was called the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP), which set up a series of working groups to study cooperation in transportation, energy, aviation, the environment and more.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most people familiar with the SPP understand that it is a benign and slow-moving attempt to coordinate trade and security policies in a bid to improve the lives of citizens in all three countries. But to the conspiracy theorists, it is a plot that will end with Mexico sending millions more of its citizens to the United States, international courts that overrule American justice, hate crime laws that will send anti-gay Christian preachers to prison, and more. The plotters are said to include the militia bogeyman of the Council of Foreign Relations and are supposedly directed by American University Professor Robert Pastor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lately, the paranoia about the SPP process has become so intense that a proposed highway linking Canada, Mexico and the United States is seen as part of evil machinations that will end with the Mexican government seizing control of the key Missouri River port in Kansas City. Other conspiracy theorists fear that a new currency, the &quot;Amero,&quot; will displace good, old-fashioned American dollars.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The leader in &quot;educating&quot; the public about the North American Union (NAU) plot has been the [John Birch Society], which says &quot;politicians and internationalists&quot; in America are &quot;effectively destroying the United States.&quot; In fact, the long dormant group has been reanimated by the theory, assigning writer Mary Benoit to cover it relentlessly in the JBS magazine The New American. JBS has allied itself on this issue with Howard Phillips, leader of the anti-immigrant Constitution Party, and added nativist leader Chris Simcox of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps to its speakers bureau.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is also the Google if you would like to add to your knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am no one&#39;s webmaster.  The only things I try to master are facts.</p>
<p>I notice that you tend to take aim at the messenger rather than engage on the message in your comments here.  Today is no exception.  You have attacked Burns, but are silent on what, exactly, is inaccurate in what he wrote.  Did he quote King accurately, so far as you know?  Did you read at any of the links he included?  Do you share King&#39;s beliefs, as quoted here?  If so, why?</p>
<p>Here is an excerpt from the SPLC article that I cited.  You might want to read the whole thing, then encourage Congressman King to focus his attention on real problems next time you see him.</p>
<p>&#8220;The &#39;North American Union&#39;<br />Since 2005, the dominant conspiracy theory animating the anti-immigration movement has been the so-called &#8220;North American Union,&#8221; described as a plot to surrender American sovereignty in a planned merger with Canada and Mexico. The plotters are typically said to be various foreign leaders, President George W. Bush and his &#8220;neo-conservative&#8221; allies, and an array of leading American liberals.</p>
<p>If the John Birch Society (JBS) and others pushing this theory are to be believed, President Bush began ceding American sovereignty on March 23, 2005, at a meeting in Waco, Texas, with Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin and Mexican President Vicente Fox. The meeting ended with the signing of what was called the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP), which set up a series of working groups to study cooperation in transportation, energy, aviation, the environment and more.</p>
<p>Most people familiar with the SPP understand that it is a benign and slow-moving attempt to coordinate trade and security policies in a bid to improve the lives of citizens in all three countries. But to the conspiracy theorists, it is a plot that will end with Mexico sending millions more of its citizens to the United States, international courts that overrule American justice, hate crime laws that will send anti-gay Christian preachers to prison, and more. The plotters are said to include the militia bogeyman of the Council of Foreign Relations and are supposedly directed by American University Professor Robert Pastor.</p>
<p>Lately, the paranoia about the SPP process has become so intense that a proposed highway linking Canada, Mexico and the United States is seen as part of evil machinations that will end with the Mexican government seizing control of the key Missouri River port in Kansas City. Other conspiracy theorists fear that a new currency, the &#8220;Amero,&#8221; will displace good, old-fashioned American dollars.</p>
<p>The leader in &#8220;educating&#8221; the public about the North American Union (NAU) plot has been the [John Birch Society], which says &#8220;politicians and internationalists&#8221; in America are &#8220;effectively destroying the United States.&#8221; In fact, the long dormant group has been reanimated by the theory, assigning writer Mary Benoit to cover it relentlessly in the JBS magazine The New American. JBS has allied itself on this issue with Howard Phillips, leader of the anti-immigrant Constitution Party, and added nativist leader Chris Simcox of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps to its speakers bureau.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is also the Google if you would like to add to your knowledge.</p>
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