Comments on: Hiring a legal workforce: Does the E-Verify program work? http://iowaindependent.com/3994/hiring-a-legal-workforce-beltway-bickering-and-real-life-consequences Iowa politics, news and commentary Mon, 12 Sep 2011 07:06:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: J http://iowaindependent.com/3994/hiring-a-legal-workforce-beltway-bickering-and-real-life-consequences/comment-page-1#comment-6515 J Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:35:43 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/?p=3994#comment-6515 Look, whether you're talking about construction, meat packing and many other jobs, American citizen workers didn't walk away and decide they didn't want those jobs any more. They were fired, and replaced with cheaper, illegal labor. Those jobs used to lift American citizens out of poverty, now they are given to illegals who openly underbid the wages, and then turn around and demand welfare subsidies because they "don't earn enough". Facts are that when citizens worked those jobs, they weren't collecting welfare. You can't claim to care about human rights, when you excuse the very actions that are violating the human rights and the civil rights of American citizens. That's what gets so many Americans ticked off.. those who wouldn't deign to soil their lily white, affluent hands doing manual labor assume because they wouldn't do those jobs, no one else in the country would. Those jobs are the difference between life and death for many, many American citizens. Try getting out in the real world and talking to some. They didn't win the powerball and move to Beverly Hills, or just disappear from the face of the earth. Many of them are barely keeping a roof over their heads, or have become homeless, while the so called "progressives" blather on making excuses for violating the laws that are in place to protect citizens from being exploited and discriminated against by the corporate interests said "progressives" claim to be taking a stand against. You don't eradicate poverty south of the border, by excusing the status quo that helps maintain that poverty, nor does imposing that status quo here achieve that. Yet that is all your excuses achieve. Is it any wonder that "progressives" are so reviled these days? Look, whether you’re talking about construction, meat packing and many other jobs, American citizen workers didn’t walk away and decide they didn’t want those jobs any more. They were fired, and replaced with cheaper, illegal labor. Those jobs used to lift American citizens out of poverty, now they are given to illegals who openly underbid the wages, and then turn around and demand welfare subsidies because they “don’t earn enough”. Facts are that when citizens worked those jobs, they weren’t collecting welfare.

You can’t claim to care about human rights, when you excuse the very actions that are violating the human rights and the civil rights of American citizens. That’s what gets so many Americans ticked off.. those who wouldn’t deign to soil their lily white, affluent hands doing manual labor assume because they wouldn’t do those jobs, no one else in the country would. Those jobs are the difference between life and death for many, many American citizens. Try getting out in the real world and talking to some. They didn’t win the powerball and move to Beverly Hills, or just disappear from the face of the earth. Many of them are barely keeping a roof over their heads, or have become homeless, while the so called “progressives” blather on making excuses for violating the laws that are in place to protect citizens from being exploited and discriminated against by the corporate interests said “progressives” claim to be taking a stand against.

You don’t eradicate poverty south of the border, by excusing the status quo that helps maintain that poverty, nor does imposing that status quo here achieve that. Yet that is all your excuses achieve. Is it any wonder that “progressives” are so reviled these days?

]]> By: J http://iowaindependent.com/3994/hiring-a-legal-workforce-beltway-bickering-and-real-life-consequences/comment-page-1#comment-7131 J Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:35:43 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/?p=3994#comment-7131 Look, whether you're talking about construction, meat packing and many other jobs, American citizen workers didn't walk away and decide they didn't want those jobs any more. They were fired, and replaced with cheaper, illegal labor. Those jobs used to lift American citizens out of poverty, now they are given to illegals who openly underbid the wages, and then turn around and demand welfare subsidies because they "don't earn enough". Facts are that when citizens worked those jobs, they weren't collecting welfare.<br><br>You can't claim to care about human rights, when you excuse the very actions that are violating the human rights and the civil rights of American citizens. That's what gets so many Americans ticked off.. those who wouldn't deign to soil their lily white, affluent hands doing manual labor assume because they wouldn't do those jobs, no one else in the country would. Those jobs are the difference between life and death for many, many American citizens. Try getting out in the real world and talking to some. They didn't win the powerball and move to Beverly Hills, or just disappear from the face of the earth. Many of them are barely keeping a roof over their heads, or have become homeless, while the so called "progressives" blather on making excuses for violating the laws that are in place to protect citizens from being exploited and discriminated against by the corporate interests said "progressives" claim to be taking a stand against.<br><br>You don't eradicate poverty south of the border, by excusing the status quo that helps maintain that poverty, nor does imposing that status quo here achieve that. Yet that is all your excuses achieve. Is it any wonder that "progressives" are so reviled these days? Look, whether you're talking about construction, meat packing and many other jobs, American citizen workers didn't walk away and decide they didn't want those jobs any more. They were fired, and replaced with cheaper, illegal labor. Those jobs used to lift American citizens out of poverty, now they are given to illegals who openly underbid the wages, and then turn around and demand welfare subsidies because they “don't earn enough”. Facts are that when citizens worked those jobs, they weren't collecting welfare.

You can't claim to care about human rights, when you excuse the very actions that are violating the human rights and the civil rights of American citizens. That's what gets so many Americans ticked off.. those who wouldn't deign to soil their lily white, affluent hands doing manual labor assume because they wouldn't do those jobs, no one else in the country would. Those jobs are the difference between life and death for many, many American citizens. Try getting out in the real world and talking to some. They didn't win the powerball and move to Beverly Hills, or just disappear from the face of the earth. Many of them are barely keeping a roof over their heads, or have become homeless, while the so called “progressives” blather on making excuses for violating the laws that are in place to protect citizens from being exploited and discriminated against by the corporate interests said “progressives” claim to be taking a stand against.

You don't eradicate poverty south of the border, by excusing the status quo that helps maintain that poverty, nor does imposing that status quo here achieve that. Yet that is all your excuses achieve. Is it any wonder that “progressives” are so reviled these days?

]]> By: Buzm1 http://iowaindependent.com/3994/hiring-a-legal-workforce-beltway-bickering-and-real-life-consequences/comment-page-1#comment-6495 Buzm1 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:39:54 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/?p=3994#comment-6495 There are over 8.8 million unemployed American workers, and that number is increasing every day. Illegal immigrants, using forged, falsified, or stolen identities, have illegally obtained 100's of thousands of jobs, that rightfully belong to American workers. E-Verify will rid us of lying, cheating, and staeling,illegal immigrants, and give these jobs back to Americans. Americans need those jobs now. Illegal immigrants have absolutely no right to be in our country, It is against our laws for them to be here. It is against our laws for anyone to employ an illegal anywhere within our United States. It is against our laws for anyone in our United States, to aid, or abet, an illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrants need to leave, and they need to leave NOW!!! THERE WILL BE NO AMNESTY!!! OUR ACCEPTABLE IMMIGRATION REFORM #1. Secure the Border!!! #2. Mandate E-Verify for ALL Employees!!! #3. Mandate E-Verify for ANY Benefit!!! #4. Stop the Underground Economy!!! #5. End Birthright Citizenship for Illegals!!! ......and make it retroactive!!! #6. End Chain Migration!!! #7. Make English our Official Language!!! #8. Cut Off Federal Funds to Sanctuary Cities!! NOTHING MORE!!! NOTHING LESS!!! There are over 8.8 million unemployed American workers, and that number is increasing every day.

Illegal immigrants, using forged, falsified, or stolen identities, have illegally obtained 100′s of thousands of jobs, that rightfully belong to American workers.

E-Verify will rid us of lying, cheating, and staeling,illegal immigrants, and give these jobs back to Americans.

Americans need those jobs now.

Illegal immigrants have absolutely no right to be in our country, It is against our laws for them to be here.

It is against our laws for anyone to employ an illegal anywhere within our United States.

It is against our laws for anyone in our United States, to aid, or abet, an illegal immigrant.

Illegal immigrants need to leave, and they need to leave NOW!!!

THERE WILL BE NO AMNESTY!!!

OUR ACCEPTABLE IMMIGRATION REFORM

#1. Secure the Border!!!
#2. Mandate E-Verify for ALL Employees!!!
#3. Mandate E-Verify for ANY Benefit!!!
#4. Stop the Underground Economy!!!
#5. End Birthright Citizenship for Illegals!!!
……and make it retroactive!!!
#6. End Chain Migration!!!
#7. Make English our Official Language!!!
#8. Cut Off Federal Funds to Sanctuary Cities!!

NOTHING MORE!!! NOTHING LESS!!!

]]> By: Buzm1 http://iowaindependent.com/3994/hiring-a-legal-workforce-beltway-bickering-and-real-life-consequences/comment-page-1#comment-7132 Buzm1 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:39:54 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/?p=3994#comment-7132 There are over 8.8 million unemployed American workers, and that number is increasing every day.<br><br>Illegal immigrants, using forged, falsified, or stolen identities, have illegally obtained 100's of thousands of jobs, that rightfully belong to American workers.<br><br>E-Verify will rid us of lying, cheating, and staeling,illegal immigrants, and give these jobs back to Americans.<br><br>Americans need those jobs now.<br><br>Illegal immigrants have absolutely no right to be in our country, It is against our laws for them to be here.<br><br>It is against our laws for anyone to employ an illegal anywhere within our United States.<br><br>It is against our laws for anyone in our United States, to aid, or abet, an illegal immigrant.<br><br>Illegal immigrants need to leave, and they need to leave NOW!!!<br><br>THERE WILL BE NO AMNESTY!!!<br><br>OUR ACCEPTABLE IMMIGRATION REFORM <br><br>#1. Secure the Border!!!<br>#2. Mandate E-Verify for ALL Employees!!! <br>#3. Mandate E-Verify for ANY Benefit!!!<br>#4. Stop the Underground Economy!!!<br>#5. End Birthright Citizenship for Illegals!!!<br>......and make it retroactive!!!<br>#6. End Chain Migration!!!<br>#7. Make English our Official Language!!!<br>#8. Cut Off Federal Funds to Sanctuary Cities!!<br><br>NOTHING MORE!!! NOTHING LESS!!! There are over 8.8 million unemployed American workers, and that number is increasing every day.

Illegal immigrants, using forged, falsified, or stolen identities, have illegally obtained 100's of thousands of jobs, that rightfully belong to American workers.

E-Verify will rid us of lying, cheating, and staeling,illegal immigrants, and give these jobs back to Americans.

Americans need those jobs now.

Illegal immigrants have absolutely no right to be in our country, It is against our laws for them to be here.

It is against our laws for anyone to employ an illegal anywhere within our United States.

It is against our laws for anyone in our United States, to aid, or abet, an illegal immigrant.

Illegal immigrants need to leave, and they need to leave NOW!!!

THERE WILL BE NO AMNESTY!!!

OUR ACCEPTABLE IMMIGRATION REFORM

#1. Secure the Border!!!
#2. Mandate E-Verify for ALL Employees!!!
#3. Mandate E-Verify for ANY Benefit!!!
#4. Stop the Underground Economy!!!
#5. End Birthright Citizenship for Illegals!!!
……and make it retroactive!!!
#6. End Chain Migration!!!
#7. Make English our Official Language!!!
#8. Cut Off Federal Funds to Sanctuary Cities!!

NOTHING MORE!!! NOTHING LESS!!!

]]> By: Hombre Viejo http://iowaindependent.com/3994/hiring-a-legal-workforce-beltway-bickering-and-real-life-consequences/comment-page-1#comment-6493 Hombre Viejo Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:01:17 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/?p=3994#comment-6493 Skipping all the rhetoric and ramblings of many who want to allow the continued invasion of illegal aliens sucking us dry and displacing jobs for American Citizens, anything that deports illegal residents should be employed. Thanks to ICE teams a small dent has been made in a serious expensive problem. E-verify and all other means of detection must be employed. Apprehension and control of illegal aliens is a necessity for several reasons. If not stepped up and enforced now, the nation will be lost to the American Citizen. Hasn't the fact of illegal residency cost every citizen enough already? We are at war with a problem that affects every citizen. Uphold coded U.S. Immigration Law, protect the United States from the disruption and chaos at all costs. Illegal aliens are not welcome here. Please leave and deport yourself. Otherwise eventually ICE will! Americans have had enough of this flagrant disregard of our laws! Place the U.S. Army and Marines on our borders with clear orders to apprehend and defend the U.S. borders. Stop the invasion! Skipping all the rhetoric and ramblings of many who want to allow the continued invasion of illegal aliens sucking us dry and displacing jobs for American Citizens, anything that deports illegal residents should be employed. Thanks to ICE teams a small dent has been made in a serious expensive problem.
E-verify and all other means of detection must be employed. Apprehension and control of illegal aliens is a necessity for several reasons. If not stepped up and enforced now, the nation will be lost to the American Citizen. Hasn’t the fact of illegal residency cost every citizen enough already? We are at war with a problem that affects every citizen. Uphold coded U.S. Immigration Law, protect the United States from the disruption and chaos at all costs. Illegal aliens are not welcome here. Please leave and deport yourself. Otherwise eventually ICE will! Americans have had enough of this flagrant disregard of our laws! Place the U.S. Army and Marines on our borders with clear orders to apprehend and defend the U.S. borders.
Stop the invasion!

]]> By: Hombre Viejo http://iowaindependent.com/3994/hiring-a-legal-workforce-beltway-bickering-and-real-life-consequences/comment-page-1#comment-7133 Hombre Viejo Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:01:17 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/?p=3994#comment-7133 Skipping all the rhetoric and ramblings of many who want to allow the continued invasion of illegal aliens sucking us dry and displacing jobs for American Citizens, anything that deports illegal residents should be employed. Thanks to ICE teams a small dent has been made in a serious expensive problem.<br>E-verify and all other means of detection must be employed. Apprehension and control of illegal aliens is a necessity for several reasons. If not stepped up and enforced now, the nation will be lost to the American Citizen. Hasn't the fact of illegal residency cost every citizen enough already? We are at war with a problem that affects every citizen. Uphold coded U.S. Immigration Law, protect the United States from the disruption and chaos at all costs. Illegal aliens are not welcome here. Please leave and deport yourself. Otherwise eventually ICE will! Americans have had enough of this flagrant disregard of our laws! Place the U.S. Army and Marines on our borders with clear orders to apprehend and defend the U.S. borders.<br>Stop the invasion! Skipping all the rhetoric and ramblings of many who want to allow the continued invasion of illegal aliens sucking us dry and displacing jobs for American Citizens, anything that deports illegal residents should be employed. Thanks to ICE teams a small dent has been made in a serious expensive problem.
E-verify and all other means of detection must be employed. Apprehension and control of illegal aliens is a necessity for several reasons. If not stepped up and enforced now, the nation will be lost to the American Citizen. Hasn't the fact of illegal residency cost every citizen enough already? We are at war with a problem that affects every citizen. Uphold coded U.S. Immigration Law, protect the United States from the disruption and chaos at all costs. Illegal aliens are not welcome here. Please leave and deport yourself. Otherwise eventually ICE will! Americans have had enough of this flagrant disregard of our laws! Place the U.S. Army and Marines on our borders with clear orders to apprehend and defend the U.S. borders.
Stop the invasion!

]]> By: CJ http://iowaindependent.com/3994/hiring-a-legal-workforce-beltway-bickering-and-real-life-consequences/comment-page-1#comment-6490 CJ Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:49:16 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/?p=3994#comment-6490 Illegal aliens are not only taking jobs away from American citizens and lowering the wages of American citizens, as well as costing American citizens benefits that they have paid for (like welfare and food stamps and health care - in Los Angeles County alone over 1 Billion in just food stamps and welfare goes to illegal aliens who work under the table and help to send 26 BILLION a year in "remittances" our of the American economy back to oil rich Mexico) BUT they are also taking away America's right on the changing face of America. By illegally flooding the country, the balance of immigrants is now being falsely sku'd to benefit only those of "hispanic" culture and language. If we are going to let predominately hispanic illegal aliens flood the country then I say we need to let any Canadians, British, Irish, Australians flood the country too. Why should we discriminate and let predominately only one country / culture flood the country. I say not only enforce the use of E-Verify across the country but strenghthen it so that all loopholes are filled. Fight for America and her culture, and history. Illegal aliens are not only taking jobs away from American citizens and lowering the wages of American citizens, as well as costing American citizens benefits that they have paid for (like welfare and food stamps and health care – in Los Angeles County alone over 1 Billion in just food stamps and welfare goes to illegal aliens who work under the table and help to send 26 BILLION a year in “remittances” our of the American economy back to oil rich Mexico) BUT they are also taking away America’s right on the changing face of America. By illegally flooding the country, the balance of immigrants is now being falsely sku’d to benefit only those of “hispanic” culture and language. If we are going to let predominately hispanic illegal aliens flood the country then I say we need to let any Canadians, British, Irish, Australians flood the country too. Why should we discriminate and let predominately only one country / culture flood the country. I say not only enforce the use of E-Verify across the country but strenghthen it so that all loopholes are filled. Fight for America and her culture, and history.

]]> By: CJ http://iowaindependent.com/3994/hiring-a-legal-workforce-beltway-bickering-and-real-life-consequences/comment-page-1#comment-7134 CJ Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:49:16 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/?p=3994#comment-7134 Illegal aliens are not only taking jobs away from American citizens and lowering the wages of American citizens, as well as costing American citizens benefits that they have paid for (like welfare and food stamps and health care - in Los Angeles County alone over 1 Billion in just food stamps and welfare goes to illegal aliens who work under the table and help to send 26 BILLION a year in "remittances" our of the American economy back to oil rich Mexico) BUT they are also taking away America's right on the changing face of America. By illegally flooding the country, the balance of immigrants is now being falsely sku'd to benefit only those of "hispanic" culture and language. If we are going to let predominately hispanic illegal aliens flood the country then I say we need to let any Canadians, British, Irish, Australians flood the country too. Why should we discriminate and let predominately only one country / culture flood the country. I say not only enforce the use of E-Verify across the country but strenghthen it so that all loopholes are filled. Fight for America and her culture, and history. Illegal aliens are not only taking jobs away from American citizens and lowering the wages of American citizens, as well as costing American citizens benefits that they have paid for (like welfare and food stamps and health care – in Los Angeles County alone over 1 Billion in just food stamps and welfare goes to illegal aliens who work under the table and help to send 26 BILLION a year in “remittances” our of the American economy back to oil rich Mexico) BUT they are also taking away America's right on the changing face of America. By illegally flooding the country, the balance of immigrants is now being falsely sku'd to benefit only those of “hispanic” culture and language. If we are going to let predominately hispanic illegal aliens flood the country then I say we need to let any Canadians, British, Irish, Australians flood the country too. Why should we discriminate and let predominately only one country / culture flood the country. I say not only enforce the use of E-Verify across the country but strenghthen it so that all loopholes are filled. Fight for America and her culture, and history.

]]> By: Stephanie http://iowaindependent.com/3994/hiring-a-legal-workforce-beltway-bickering-and-real-life-consequences/comment-page-1#comment-6488 Stephanie Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:24:59 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/?p=3994#comment-6488 No matter what excuses SHRM will put forward, their motive is very clear. They do not want law enforcement of any kind. I will not even be surprised if some of their own are on false documents. The honest fear no one. It is the guilty that try to find loopholes for escape. It is time Americans woke up and stood united to defeat all organizations like SHRM and all corporation who encourage violation of laws. The House has already passed the E-Verify program. The Senate should do the same. That is the only way to eliminate or minimize false documentation and illegal workforce. Kudos to DHS and ICE for doing their job fearlessly. No matter what excuses SHRM will put forward, their motive is very clear. They do not want law enforcement of any kind. I will not even be surprised if some of their own are on false documents. The honest fear no one. It is the guilty that try to find loopholes for escape. It is time Americans woke up and stood united to defeat all organizations like SHRM and all corporation who encourage violation of laws. The House has already passed the E-Verify program. The Senate should do the same. That is the only way to eliminate or minimize false documentation and illegal workforce.

Kudos to DHS and ICE for doing their job fearlessly.

]]> By: Stephanie http://iowaindependent.com/3994/hiring-a-legal-workforce-beltway-bickering-and-real-life-consequences/comment-page-1#comment-7135 Stephanie Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:24:59 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/?p=3994#comment-7135 No matter what excuses SHRM will put forward, their motive is very clear. They do not want law enforcement of any kind. I will not even be surprised if some of their own are on false documents. The honest fear no one. It is the guilty that try to find loopholes for escape. It is time Americans woke up and stood united to defeat all organizations like SHRM and all corporation who encourage violation of laws. The House has already passed the E-Verify program. The Senate should do the same. That is the only way to eliminate or minimize false documentation and illegal workforce.<br><br>Kudos to DHS and ICE for doing their job fearlessly. No matter what excuses SHRM will put forward, their motive is very clear. They do not want law enforcement of any kind. I will not even be surprised if some of their own are on false documents. The honest fear no one. It is the guilty that try to find loopholes for escape. It is time Americans woke up and stood united to defeat all organizations like SHRM and all corporation who encourage violation of laws. The House has already passed the E-Verify program. The Senate should do the same. That is the only way to eliminate or minimize false documentation and illegal workforce.

Kudos to DHS and ICE for doing their job fearlessly.

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