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Open letter to readers: Today and tomorrow

By Lynda Waddington | 11.17.11

Wednesday was a difficult day for The American Independent News Network, which is the larger entity that operates The Iowa Independent. Our chief executive and founder announced two of our sister sites would close and their content would be moved to The American Independent.

ACS lockout continues; plan emerges to repeal sugar protections

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By Virginia Chamlee | 11.15.11

A recently introduced bill could have far-reaching impact on the U.S. sugar industry, including American Crystal Sugar, a farmer-owned cooperative that locked out 1,300 Midwest workers on Aug. 1.

Cain campaign: Farmers know more about regulations than EPA

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By Andrew Duffelmeyer | 11.15.11

The chairman for Herman Cain’s Iowa effort says the campaign “relied more on the word of farmers than Washington regulators” in deciding to run an ad containing claims the Environmental Protection Agency says are false.

Mathis wins, Democrats maintain Senate control

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By Lynda Waddington | 11.08.11

The Iowa Senate will remain under the control of a slim 26-25 Democratic majority when it reconvenes in January 2012.

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PR: Nation should work to address veterans’ challenges

By Press Release Reprints | 11.11.11

BRUCE BRALEY RELEASE — As US involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan ends, it’s more important than ever that our nation works to address the challenges faced by the men and women who fought there.

PR: Honoring veterans, help in hiring

By Press Release Reprints | 11.11.11

CHUCK GRASSLEY RELEASE — A difficult job market is challenging the soldiers, sailors and airmen who have protected America’s interests by serving in the Armed Forces.

PR: In honor of America’s veterans

By Press Release Reprints | 11.11.11

TOM LATHAM RELEASE — No one has done more to secure the freedom enjoyed by every single American than our veterans and those currently serving in the armed services.

PR: Honoring and supporting our nation’s veterans

By Press Release Reprints | 11.11.11

DAVE LOEBSACK RELEASE — Veterans Day is an opportunity to reflect on the service of generations of veterans and to honor the sacrifices they and their families have made so that we may live in peace and freedom here at home.

Smoking Ban Questions Blow through City Council Chambers

By Douglas Burns | 07.13.08 | 11:55 pm

Any small town Iowa city hall reporter knows that when council members get to the routine liquor license renewals they get the rubber stamp of all rubber stamps. All “aye” and on to the next item.

Not so in Clinton, which seems to be something of a front line in a brewing war over the Iowa smoking ban, with a local bar organization joining a lawsuit to challenge the new law and several bars reportedly violating it to keep angry customers from walking out the doors after half a beer.

At a recent city council meeting in Clinton, one councilman used a liquor-license renewal request for a bar, Paul’s Tap, to report the establishment for an alleged violation of the smoking ban the councilman said he witnessed. The liquor license was approved, but the debate highlighted confusion over the ban and local government’s role in enforcing it.Statewide rules from the Iowa Department Of Public Health, the agency in charge of implementing the ban, are out, but they are in draft form, with a comment period still open.

Clinton isn’t the only place where local government is dealing with the law.

In the wake of the July 1 implementation of the statewide indoor and public property smoking ban, Carroll City Council members Monday will focus on rules for city parks and the golf course – as well as other matters related to the law.

Council members expect to take no action on the measure but rather plan to review the law with Carroll City Attorney David Bruner and see where local authority may apply within the law.

“I would think they probably would want to take a look at the golf course, the park issue,” Bruner said.

The Iowa law bans smoking in all indoor places, with some exceptions for casino gaming areas, the veterans home, hotel rooms and limited areas.

Smoking is prohibited in many outdoor public areas, particularly those places that are publicly owned.

While the statewide law would supercede any local action, there is some room for decisions in the council chambers, Bruner said.

His interpretation – and that of many other city officials around the state – is that the council can determine whether smoking is allowed on the golf course, even though it is clearly banned in the clubhouse.

“I think the council could allow that – on the course of play they could allow smoking,” Bruner said.

“Municipalities can exempt the outdoor grounds (of golf courses) from the act, reports WQAD television in the Quad Cities. “Scott County exempted Glenn’s Creek Golf Course from the ban, and Bettendorf exempted Palmer Hills Golf Course. But Davenport council members have not yet taken any action regarding Emeis, Red Hawk or Duck Creek golf courses. And, for the most part, the ban isn’t going over well with golfers.”

Then there is the matter of parks.

“My interpretation is obviously no smoking in park shelterhouses and surrounding grounds,” Bruner said.

But the council could go further and ban smoking in all areas of city parks. Or the council could conceivably look at making some parks smoking and others non-smoking.

LeMars is dealing with the same issue before the Carroll City Council.

“The golf course and parks are what (LeMars) City Attorney Joe Flannery described as ‘big questions’ in the No Smoking ban scenario with the possibility existing that the city council could act to allow smoking on the holes of the golf course as well as in grassy park areas,” reports the LeMars Daily Sentinel.

Bruner said the smoking ban would apply to the Carroll Family Aquatic Center now under construction as well as the Youth Sports Complex.

As it stands, the law is enforced by the Iowa Department of Public Health as a civil matter. Bruner said the city may have to deal with the issue later if lawmakers alter the smoking ban to make it a simple misdemeanor for a violation, a move that would bring in local law enforcement at a different level of intensity.

It is Bruner’s interpretation that smokers can still light up in their cars on all city property, and the city hall parking lot could be ruled a smoking area.

“I think you can always smoke in your car wherever it is located,” Bruner said.

Comments

  • snowbird

    Smoking bans are the ‘real’ threat to Democracy Smoking bans are the real threat to democracy

    The bandwagon of local smoking bans now steamrolling across the nation has
    nothing to do with protecting people from the supposed threat of
    “second-hand” smoke.

    Indeed, the bans themselves are symptoms of a far more grievous threat, a
    cancer that has been spreading for decades throughout the body politic. This
    cancer is the only real hazard involved – the cancer of unlimited government
    power.

    Loudly billed as measures that only affect “public places,” smoking bans
    have actually targeted many privately owned places such as bars and shops –
    places whose owners should be free to ban smoking or not and whose customers
    are free to patronize or not. Outdoor bans even harass smokers in places
    where others’ health is obviously not the issue.

    The decision to smoke or to avoid “second-hand” smoke, is a question for
    each individual to answer based on his own values and judgment.  This is the
    same kind of decision free people make regarding every aspect of their
    lives. All lifestyle decisions involve risks; some have demonstrably harmful
    consequences; many are controversial and invite disapproval from others. but
    the individual must be free to make these decisions. He must be free,
    because his life belongs to him, not to others, and only his own judgment
    can guide him through it.

    Yet when it comes to smoking this freedom of choice for a minority, is being
    seriously limited by a majority made baselessly fearful through massive
    media campaigns often funded by tax dollars.

    The real threat we face here, no matter how strongly it is denied by the
    anti-smoking lobby, is the systematic and unlimited intrusion of government
    into our lives.

    We do not elect officials to control and manipulate our behaviour. They are
    in office to serve us, not vise versa.

    Thomas Laprade

  • snowbird

    Smoking bans are the 'real' threat to Democracy Smoking bans are the real threat to democracy

    The bandwagon of local smoking bans now steamrolling across the nation has

    nothing to do with protecting people from the supposed threat of

    “second-hand” smoke.

    Indeed, the bans themselves are symptoms of a far more grievous threat, a

    cancer that has been spreading for decades throughout the body politic. This

    cancer is the only real hazard involved – the cancer of unlimited government

    power.

    Loudly billed as measures that only affect “public places,” smoking bans

    have actually targeted many privately owned places such as bars and shops –

    places whose owners should be free to ban smoking or not and whose customers

    are free to patronize or not. Outdoor bans even harass smokers in places

    where others' health is obviously not the issue.

    The decision to smoke or to avoid “second-hand” smoke, is a question for

    each individual to answer based on his own values and judgment.  This is the

    same kind of decision free people make regarding every aspect of their

    lives. All lifestyle decisions involve risks; some have demonstrably harmful

    consequences; many are controversial and invite disapproval from others. but

    the individual must be free to make these decisions. He must be free,

    because his life belongs to him, not to others, and only his own judgment

    can guide him through it.

    Yet when it comes to smoking this freedom of choice for a minority, is being

    seriously limited by a majority made baselessly fearful through massive

    media campaigns often funded by tax dollars.

    The real threat we face here, no matter how strongly it is denied by the

    anti-smoking lobby, is the systematic and unlimited intrusion of government

    into our lives.

    We do not elect officials to control and manipulate our behaviour. They are

    in office to serve us, not vise versa.

    Thomas Laprade

  • mrw

    Democracy threat Bans on private property will be proven

    Unconstitutional.
      Private property is described by a piece of land or a building not owned or purchased by the Public with taxpayer funding.

    Resaurants, bars, dance halls, nursing homes, assisted living quarters, apartment buildings,casinos, veterans halls, clubs, golf courses,etc are private properties.

    A minority can not make  rules on ordinances involving private property rights.

    Washington DC residents have been given, by the Supreme Court, the freedom to have a gun in their homes,lifting a ban regarding private property rights.

    Dangers of second hand smoke have been grossly exaggerated,

    as compared to other dangerous pollutants,eg automobile exhaust.

  • steve

    Do we not have a democracy here in the United States? The great thing about democracy is that it needs capitalism to be successful. And the great thing about capitalism is that if there is a true need or demand in our society, such as smoke free establishments, then that demand will be met by privately owned businesses. That is right, I said privately owned. People have this misconception of a bar being “public”. Well, it is not public people! It would like you coming over to my house and telling me I can’t smoke. It’s my house, just as it’s the bar owner’s bar, if you don’t like the smoking DON’T GO TO THAT ESTABLISHMENT! I don’t go to strip clubs and complain about the girls showing too much. I don’t go to a comedy club and complain that the comedians shouldn’t be allowed to cuss. The government has no right to step in. If the government is so concern about the effects of cigarettes, how come it is still legal for pregnant women to smoke? So, let me get this right, I can’t smoke at a bar, but a pregnant woman can smoke, which I just happen to see the other day. How come anyone is allowed to smoke? Better yet, it would make more since to outlaw all fast food and red meat in general, seeming how consumption of red meat and unhealthy diet leads to way more diseases and deaths per year than smoking. If you don’t believe me, ask any physician. The point is, the government has no right nor a legitimate excuse to have this ban in effect. And no, I am not a smoker.

  • steve

    Do we not have a democracy here in the United States? The great thing about democracy is that it needs capitalism to be successful. And the great thing about capitalism is that if there is a true need or demand in our society, such as smoke free establishments, then that demand will be met by privately owned businesses. That is right, I said privately owned. People have this misconception of a bar being “public”. Well, it is not public people! It would like you coming over to my house and telling me I can't smoke. It's my house, just as it's the bar owner's bar, if you don't like the smoking DON'T GO TO THAT ESTABLISHMENT! I don't go to strip clubs and complain about the girls showing too much. I don't go to a comedy club and complain that the comedians shouldn't be allowed to cuss. The government has no right to step in. If the government is so concern about the effects of cigarettes, how come it is still legal for pregnant women to smoke? So, let me get this right, I can't smoke at a bar, but a pregnant woman can smoke, which I just happen to see the other day. How come anyone is allowed to smoke? Better yet, it would make more since to outlaw all fast food and red meat in general, seeming how consumption of red meat and unhealthy diet leads to way more diseases and deaths per year than smoking. If you don't believe me, ask any physician. The point is, the government has no right nor a legitimate excuse to have this ban in effect. And no, I am not a smoker.

  • steve

    Do we not have a democracy here in the United States? The great thing about democracy is that it needs capitalism to be successful. And the great thing about capitalism is that if there is a true need or demand in our society, such as smoke free establishments, then that demand will be met by privately owned businesses. That is right, I said privately owned. People have this misconception of a bar being “public”. Well, it is not public people! It would like you coming over to my house and telling me I can’t smoke. It’s my house, just as it’s the bar owner’s bar, if you don’t like the smoking DON’T GO TO THAT ESTABLISHMENT! I don’t go to strip clubs and complain about the girls showing too much. I don’t go to a comedy club and complain that the comedians shouldn’t be allowed to cuss. The government has no right to step in. If the government is so concern about the effects of cigarettes, how come it is still legal for pregnant women to smoke? So, let me get this right, I can’t smoke at a bar, but a pregnant woman can smoke, which I just happen to see the other day. How come anyone is allowed to smoke? Better yet, it would make more since to outlaw all fast food and red meat in general, seeming how consumption of red meat and unhealthy diet leads to way more diseases and deaths per year than smoking. If you don’t believe me, ask any physician. The point is, the government has no right nor a legitimate excuse to have this ban in effect. And no, I am not a smoker. Just an intelligent liberal that cares about his rights and a TRUE patriot.

  • steve

    Do we not have a democracy here in the United States? The great thing about democracy is that it needs capitalism to be successful. And the great thing about capitalism is that if there is a true need or demand in our society, such as smoke free establishments, then that demand will be met by privately owned businesses. That is right, I said privately owned. People have this misconception of a bar being “public”. Well, it is not public people! It would like you coming over to my house and telling me I can't smoke. It's my house, just as it's the bar owner's bar, if you don't like the smoking DON'T GO TO THAT ESTABLISHMENT! I don't go to strip clubs and complain about the girls showing too much. I don't go to a comedy club and complain that the comedians shouldn't be allowed to cuss. The government has no right to step in. If the government is so concern about the effects of cigarettes, how come it is still legal for pregnant women to smoke? So, let me get this right, I can't smoke at a bar, but a pregnant woman can smoke, which I just happen to see the other day. How come anyone is allowed to smoke? Better yet, it would make more since to outlaw all fast food and red meat in general, seeming how consumption of red meat and unhealthy diet leads to way more diseases and deaths per year than smoking. If you don't believe me, ask any physician. The point is, the government has no right nor a legitimate excuse to have this ban in effect. And no, I am not a smoker. Just an intelligent liberal that cares about his rights and a TRUE patriot.

  • Mr. Ken Hill

    An Open Letter, sent to the following recipients, July 23, 2008

    Dear Honourable David C. Onley, Lieutenant Governor of Ontario; The Honourable Peter Miliken M.P., The Speaker of the House of Commons and other Members; Honourable Members of the Senate of Canada:

    This letter is my appeal to refuse Royal Assent to Ontario’s new legislation banning adults from smoking in cars where children under age 16 are present, refers to the following email.

    *An open letter that was emailed to all Ontario MPP’s in early May, 2008. No replies!

    Betrayal, Anti-Smoking Message is Like Fascism that Preys Upon Our Children

    We must not look within ourselves. We may discover what we are becoming!

    Moral judgement is the mirror, mirror, on the wall image, always lurking in our mind, like an alter-conscience, prepared to reveal the frightening truth, in our soul, such as the undeserved vengefulness, at any cost, wielded against smokers. Even betrayal, of the next generation, becomes palatable within self-betrayal.

    This remorseless mental/emotional preying upon, our precious children, recklessly poisons their mind and spirit, under the government’s pernicious slogan “health and safety.”

    By supporting anti-smoking, we endorse and promote Fascism, an historically proven scurvy upon humanity!

    The inevitable shame, of our past actions, can still be averted, by rescinding this government agenda!

    The most”dangerous smoke” comes not from cigarettes, instead from the government smoke screen to obscure from view, that the real issue is Capitalism and science versus Fascism and politicized environmentalism, not ‘health and safety.’

    Science and politicized environmentalism are colliding worlds, science being the height of pursuing truth, politicized environmentalism the depth of distorting truth. Anti-smoking is part of politicized environmentalism and the attempted foundation of Fascism!

    Do we therefore side with Capitalism, science, Second World War troops and our allies– honour; or do we side with Fascism, politicized environmentalism, our enemies of the Second World War– disgrace? Thus far we blindly follow our enemies and disgrace!

    From the mouth of Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace, “It doesn’t matter what is true; it only matters what people believe is true…..You are what the media define you to be. Greenpeace became a myth and a myth-generating machine.” We deserve truth, not half-truths and propaganda!

    For any high ranking government official that lack this critical knowledge, they are in their office under false pretenses. They are unprepared to govern. Their present course of anti-smoking legislations is the proof of that statement.

    In the words of Psychotherapist Nathaniel Branden, “I was acutely conscious of the pressure to ‘adapt’ and to absorb the values of the ‘tribe’—family, community and culture. It seemed to me that what was asked was the surrender of my judgement and also my conviction that my life and what I made of it was of the highest possible value. I saw my contemporaries surrendering and losing their fire. Why was growing up equated with giving up?”

    Philosopher/Novelist Ayn Rand wrote, “If some demagogue were to offer us, as a guiding creed, the following tenets: that statistics should be substituted for truth, vote-counting for principles, numbers for rights, and public polls for morality–that pragmatic, range-of-the-moment expediency should be the criterion of a country’s interests, and that the number of its adherents should be the criterion of an idea’s truth or falsehood–that any desire of any nature whatsoever should be accepted as a valid claim, provided it is held by a sufficient number of people–that a majority may do anything it pleases to a minority–in short, gang rule and mob rule–if a demagogue were to offer it, he would not get very far. Yet all of it is contained in–and camouflaged by–the notion of ‘Government by Consensus.”

    ‘Rule by Consensus,’ (Rule by health care pressure group) is todays’ anti-ideology in government. Appeasement of these power-lusting, health care pressure groups is of higher priority than our children and all other tax payers, voters, and citizens. The permeating emotion from ‘Rule by Consensus’ is demoralizing, debilitating fear instead of an optimistic view of the future.

    Note this recent example, Premier Dalton McGuinty said he wouldn’t entertain a ban (smoking in cars with children) because it amounts to “too much intrusion into people’s private lives.” The logical interpretation of this statement is that the entire anti-smoking movement eliminates smoker’s individual rights, and has always been an intrusion into a smoker’s family dynamic. Now, the Ontario government is prepared, in predictable flip-flop fashion, to enact such a ban.

    In ignobility, many people have misaligned themself with politicized environmentalism, despite the fact that 1930′s, 1940′s, Germany used “politicized ecology and public health” to base its rationalizations. Are we predisposed to mistakenly mirror the historic footsteps of self-loathing mass destruction? No! Everyone has an individual mind and conscience, above party politics. Be true to them, follow your courage (truth) and dethrone your fear (fallacy). Rescind this government’s shameful anti-smoking agenda.

    References:

    Paul Watson – Environmental Overkill, (Whatever happened to common sense) – book
    Psychotherapist Nathaniel Branden, The Six Pillars of Self-Esteem – book
    Ayn Rand – Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal – book

    The information in these (2) paragraphs was not sent to the Ontario MPP’s.

    This quote contains an overt ‘blueprint’ by Sir George Godber, British representative to WHO, World Health Organization, suggesting intentional misrepresentation of second-hand smoke, at a WHO conference in 1975. He stated “for the anti-smoking movement to succeed it would be essential to create an atmosphere and belief that second-hand smoke would hurt the infants, children and all people around smokers. Without that fear, and the ostracization it would bring, smokers would continue to insist on the right to enjoy their habit socially, and the goal of official denormalization would never occur.”

    Sir George Godber’s quote is a serious breech of ethics and objectivity, resulting in an hysteria that widely afflicts the anti-smoking movement and why it is necessary to return to science with the total rejection of politicized environmentalism.

    Please, refuse Royal Assent of the proposed Ontario legislation banning adults from smoking in cars where children under age 16 are present! Thank you.

  • Mr. Ken Hill

    An Open Letter, sent to the following recipients, July 23, 2008

    Dear Honourable David C. Onley, Lieutenant Governor of Ontario; The Honourable Peter Miliken M.P., The Speaker of the House of Commons and other Members; Honourable Members of the Senate of Canada:

    This letter is my appeal to refuse Royal Assent to Ontario's new legislation banning adults from smoking in cars where children under age 16 are present, refers to the following email.

    *An open letter that was emailed to all Ontario MPP's in early May, 2008. No replies!

    Betrayal, Anti-Smoking Message is Like Fascism that Preys Upon Our Children

    We must not look within ourselves. We may discover what we are becoming!

    Moral judgement is the mirror, mirror, on the wall image, always lurking in our mind, like an alter-conscience, prepared to reveal the frightening truth, in our soul, such as the undeserved vengefulness, at any cost, wielded against smokers. Even betrayal, of the next generation, becomes palatable within self-betrayal.

    This remorseless mental/emotional preying upon, our precious children, recklessly poisons their mind and spirit, under the government's pernicious slogan “health and safety.”

    By supporting anti-smoking, we endorse and promote Fascism, an historically proven scurvy upon humanity!

    The inevitable shame, of our past actions, can still be averted, by rescinding this government agenda!

    The most”dangerous smoke” comes not from cigarettes, instead from the government smoke screen to obscure from view, that the real issue is Capitalism and science versus Fascism and politicized environmentalism, not 'health and safety.'

    Science and politicized environmentalism are colliding worlds, science being the height of pursuing truth, politicized environmentalism the depth of distorting truth. Anti-smoking is part of politicized environmentalism and the attempted foundation of Fascism!

    Do we therefore side with Capitalism, science, Second World War troops and our allies– honour; or do we side with Fascism, politicized environmentalism, our enemies of the Second World War– disgrace? Thus far we blindly follow our enemies and disgrace!

    From the mouth of Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace, “It doesn't matter what is true; it only matters what people believe is true…..You are what the media define you to be. Greenpeace became a myth and a myth-generating machine.” We deserve truth, not half-truths and propaganda!

    For any high ranking government official that lack this critical knowledge, they are in their office under false pretenses. They are unprepared to govern. Their present course of anti-smoking legislations is the proof of that statement.

    In the words of Psychotherapist Nathaniel Branden, “I was acutely conscious of the pressure to 'adapt' and to absorb the values of the 'tribe'—family, community and culture. It seemed to me that what was asked was the surrender of my judgement and also my conviction that my life and what I made of it was of the highest possible value. I saw my contemporaries surrendering and losing their fire. Why was growing up equated with giving up?”

    Philosopher/Novelist Ayn Rand wrote, “If some demagogue were to offer us, as a guiding creed, the following tenets: that statistics should be substituted for truth, vote-counting for principles, numbers for rights, and public polls for morality–that pragmatic, range-of-the-moment expediency should be the criterion of a country's interests, and that the number of its adherents should be the criterion of an idea's truth or falsehood–that any desire of any nature whatsoever should be accepted as a valid claim, provided it is held by a sufficient number of people–that a majority may do anything it pleases to a minority–in short, gang rule and mob rule–if a demagogue were to offer it, he would not get very far. Yet all of it is contained in–and camouflaged by–the notion of 'Government by Consensus.”

    'Rule by Consensus,' (Rule by health care pressure group) is todays' anti-ideology in government. Appeasement of these power-lusting, health care pressure groups is of higher priority than our children and all other tax payers, voters, and citizens. The permeating emotion from 'Rule by Consensus' is demoralizing, debilitating fear instead of an optimistic view of the future.

    Note this recent example, Premier Dalton McGuinty said he wouldn't entertain a ban (smoking in cars with children) because it amounts to “too much intrusion into people's private lives.” The logical interpretation of this statement is that the entire anti-smoking movement eliminates smoker's individual rights, and has always been an intrusion into a smoker's family dynamic. Now, the Ontario government is prepared, in predictable flip-flop fashion, to enact such a ban.

    In ignobility, many people have misaligned themself with politicized environmentalism, despite the fact that 1930's, 1940's, Germany used “politicized ecology and public health” to base its rationalizations. Are we predisposed to mistakenly mirror the historic footsteps of self-loathing mass destruction? No! Everyone has an individual mind and conscience, above party politics. Be true to them, follow your courage (truth) and dethrone your fear (fallacy). Rescind this government's shameful anti-smoking agenda.

    References:

    Paul Watson – Environmental Overkill, (Whatever happened to common sense) – book
    Psychotherapist Nathaniel Branden, The Six Pillars of Self-Esteem – book
    Ayn Rand – Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal – book

    The information in these (2) paragraphs was not sent to the Ontario MPP's.

    This quote contains an overt 'blueprint' by Sir George Godber, British representative to WHO, World Health Organization, suggesting intentional misrepresentation of second-hand smoke, at a WHO conference in 1975. He stated “for the anti-smoking movement to succeed it would be essential to create an atmosphere and belief that second-hand smoke would hurt the infants, children and all people around smokers. Without that fear, and the ostracization it would bring, smokers would continue to insist on the right to enjoy their habit socially, and the goal of official denormalization would never occur.”

    Sir George Godber's quote is a serious breech of ethics and objectivity, resulting in an hysteria that widely afflicts the anti-smoking movement and why it is necessary to return to science with the total rejection of politicized environmentalism.

    Please, refuse Royal Assent of the proposed Ontario legislation banning adults from smoking in cars where children under age 16 are present! Thank you.

  • http://www.sojones.com/ Urban Clothing

    IMO..
    Even the government couldn't stop people from smoking.
    It's been an addictive habit of most people a long time ago..

  • http://www.sojones.com/ Urban Clothing

    IMO..
    Even the government couldn't stop people from smoking.
    It's been an addictive habit of most people a long time ago..

  • http://www.sojones.com/ Urban Clothing

    IMO..
    Even the government couldn't stop people from smoking.
    It's been an addictive habit of most people a long time ago..

  • mrw

    Democracy threat Bans on private property will be proven
    Unconstitutional.
      Private property is described by a piece of land or a building not owned or purchased by the Public with taxpayer funding.
    Resaurants, bars, dance halls, nursing homes, assisted living quarters, apartment buildings,casinos, veterans halls, clubs, golf courses,etc are private properties.
    A minority can not make  rules on ordinances involving private property rights.

    Washington DC residents have been given, by the Supreme Court, the freedom to have a gun in their homes,lifting a ban regarding private property rights.
    Dangers of second hand smoke have been grossly exaggerated,
    as compared to other dangerous pollutants,eg automobile exhaust.

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