Comments on: Harkin: Think of health care reform as a starter home http://iowaindependent.com/23933/harkin-think-of-health-care-reform-as-a-starter-home Iowa politics, news and commentary Mon, 12 Sep 2011 07:06:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: TomDegan http://iowaindependent.com/23933/harkin-think-of-health-care-reform-as-a-starter-home/comment-page-1#comment-23885 TomDegan Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:37:28 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/?p=23933#comment-23885 I don't know what kind of health care reform will come out of this session, but I strongly suspect it won't be much. There is, however a silver lining behind this very dark cloud. I am reminded of the Civil Rights Act of 1957. Don't be embarrassed if you've never heard of it, there really isn't a hell of a lot to remember about it; a mere pittance, really - a scrap of leftovers tossed out to "American Negros" (in the parlance of the age) in order to appease them. But it made the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 - the one we remember - all-the-more easier seven years later.<br><br>We'll live to fight another day.<br><br><a href="http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">www.tomdegan.blogspot.com</a><br><br>Tom Degan I don't know what kind of health care reform will come out of this session, but I strongly suspect it won't be much. There is, however a silver lining behind this very dark cloud. I am reminded of the Civil Rights Act of 1957. Don't be embarrassed if you've never heard of it, there really isn't a hell of a lot to remember about it; a mere pittance, really – a scrap of leftovers tossed out to “American Negros” (in the parlance of the age) in order to appease them. But it made the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 – the one we remember – all-the-more easier seven years later.

We'll live to fight another day.

http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.com

Tom Degan

]]> By: TomDegan http://iowaindependent.com/23933/harkin-think-of-health-care-reform-as-a-starter-home/comment-page-1#comment-21070 TomDegan Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:37:28 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/?p=23933#comment-21070 I don't know what kind of health care reform will come out of this session, but I strongly suspect it won't be much. There is, however a silver lining behind this very dark cloud. I am reminded of the Civil Rights Act of 1957. Don't be embarrassed if you've never heard of it, there really isn't a hell of a lot to remember about it; a mere pittance, really - a scrap of leftovers tossed out to "American Negros" (in the parlance of the age) in order to appease them. But it made the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 - the one we remember - all-the-more easier seven years later.<br><br>We'll live to fight another day.<br><br><a href="http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">www.tomdegan.blogspot.com</a><br><br>Tom Degan I don't know what kind of health care reform will come out of this session, but I strongly suspect it won't be much. There is, however a silver lining behind this very dark cloud. I am reminded of the Civil Rights Act of 1957. Don't be embarrassed if you've never heard of it, there really isn't a hell of a lot to remember about it; a mere pittance, really – a scrap of leftovers tossed out to “American Negros” (in the parlance of the age) in order to appease them. But it made the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 – the one we remember – all-the-more easier seven years later.

We'll live to fight another day.

http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.com

Tom Degan

]]> By: jrship http://iowaindependent.com/23933/harkin-think-of-health-care-reform-as-a-starter-home/comment-page-1#comment-21049 jrship Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:47:21 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/?p=23933#comment-21049 This is health reform version 1.0. Progressives need to stop their pity-party pouting and win more votes in 2010 for version 1.1. More and better Democrats. People acting like they've been personally betrayed because Obama didn't try giving Lieberman a snuggy to get his vote for the public option are being silly. The WH did their best but knew early on that they probably weren't going to have 60 votes for a robust public option; they practically said as much.<br><br>As for the 60 votes issue, might I add that the framers never intended to require a super-majority to pass legislation. The filibuster is a procedural rule that's come to be abused. Mr. Smith is a nice old film, not a model for every vote on every stinking issue. The Reps + Lieberman are pissing on the legislative model envisioned by the framers. This is health reform version 1.0. Progressives need to stop their pity-party pouting and win more votes in 2010 for version 1.1. More and better Democrats. People acting like they've been personally betrayed because Obama didn't try giving Lieberman a snuggy to get his vote for the public option are being silly. The WH did their best but knew early on that they probably weren't going to have 60 votes for a robust public option; they practically said as much.

As for the 60 votes issue, might I add that the framers never intended to require a super-majority to pass legislation. The filibuster is a procedural rule that's come to be abused. Mr. Smith is a nice old film, not a model for every vote on every stinking issue. The Reps + Lieberman are pissing on the legislative model envisioned by the framers.

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