Comments on: Smoke ‘Em If You Got ‘Em: Cigarette Ban Passed by House http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house Iowa politics, news and commentary Mon, 12 Sep 2011 07:06:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: BettyCMiller http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house/comment-page-1#comment-18789 BettyCMiller Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:46:06 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house#comment-18789 The Valais region offers some good skiing facilities, as well as a host of other activities, attractions and things to <a href="http://www.switzerlandclothing.net/" rel="nofollow">switzerland clothing</a> see and do. For example, the lovely town of Nendaz, which is in Switzerland’s Valais region and in the heart of the Four Valleys ski area, is a great destination to visit both in summer and winter. The Valais region offers some good skiing facilities, as well as a host of other activities, attractions and things to switzerland clothing see and do. For example, the lovely town of Nendaz, which is in Switzerland’s Valais region and in the heart of the Four Valleys ski area, is a great destination to visit both in summer and winter.

]]> By: Cigars Online http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house/comment-page-1#comment-15383 Cigars Online Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:22:54 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house#comment-15383 amazing - I didn't think they would get it to pass. amazing – I didn't think they would get it to pass.

]]> By: thesearethetimes http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house/comment-page-1#comment-9832 thesearethetimes Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:46 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house#comment-9832 <strong>this always happens</strong> They always trot these people out when they want to shove one of these stupid bans down people's throats.  It's supposed to convince those who don't go to bars or know the deal with this seconhand smoke BS that a ban's agood thing. this always happens They always trot these people out when they want to shove one of these stupid bans down people's throats.  It's supposed to convince those who don't go to bars or know the deal with this seconhand smoke BS that a ban's agood thing.

]]> By: hotcarl http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house/comment-page-1#comment-9833 hotcarl Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:47:52 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house#comment-9833 <strong>ps</strong> Take it from someone who lives in a state that already has a ban--that "wall of smoke" you say have to walk through is going to be there.  The alternative is for the bar to give up their smoking customers entirely and we both know that's economic death for the bar.  Even the jellobrain who wrote the first comment admits that. But, listen, I've timed it and it only takes 3-5 seconds to walk through the fearsome "wall of smoke".  so all you gotta do is hold your breath.  Besides, if you have Stage 4 cancer what are you doing hanging out in bars???<br><br>One more thing I'm curious about: if this idea is so popular, why hasn't anyone opened a smokefree bar before this???</br> ps Take it from someone who lives in a state that already has a ban–that “wall of smoke” you say have to walk through is going to be there.  The alternative is for the bar to give up their smoking customers entirely and we both know that's economic death for the bar.  Even the jellobrain who wrote the first comment admits that. But, listen, I've timed it and it only takes 3-5 seconds to walk through the fearsome “wall of smoke”.  so all you gotta do is hold your breath.  Besides, if you have Stage 4 cancer what are you doing hanging out in bars???

One more thing I'm curious about: if this idea is so popular, why hasn't anyone opened a smokefree bar before this???

]]> By: hotcarl http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house/comment-page-1#comment-9834 hotcarl Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:39:50 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house#comment-9834 <strong>how can you be a cancer survivor...</strong> ....and not know that lots of factors lead to cancer?  They say grilled meats are carcinogenic; are you going to outlaw barbecuing and arrest parents for feeding grilled hot dogs to their kids??  Listen, this antismokng campaign is all propaganda.  Ever been to Japan?  They have 4 cigarette machines on every corner and you can smoke just about anywhere.  Yet they have the world's longest life expectancies.  Lots of hard-smoking countries (Austria, Spain, France, Germany, Greece, Switzerland, Italy) live longer than us and have lower cancer rates.  Hopefully Iowa will reject this ridiculous bill and the local bar will remain a place to relax. how can you be a cancer survivor… ….and not know that lots of factors lead to cancer?  They say grilled meats are carcinogenic; are you going to outlaw barbecuing and arrest parents for feeding grilled hot dogs to their kids??  Listen, this antismokng campaign is all propaganda.  Ever been to Japan?  They have 4 cigarette machines on every corner and you can smoke just about anywhere.  Yet they have the world's longest life expectancies.  Lots of hard-smoking countries (Austria, Spain, France, Germany, Greece, Switzerland, Italy) live longer than us and have lower cancer rates.  Hopefully Iowa will reject this ridiculous bill and the local bar will remain a place to relax.

]]> By: survivor http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house/comment-page-1#comment-9835 survivor Sun, 24 Feb 2008 06:31:38 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house#comment-9835 <strong>No One Deserves Lung Cancer</strong> As far as I am concerned this bill is long past due.  You have to decide where your loyality lies:  to the bar or your cigarettes.  But the rest of us don't have to be subjected to your attitudes or your second hand smoke just because we too want to go out for an evening.<p><br>The bill does not go far enough.  It should not allow smoking within 150 feet of an entrance to a building of any type.  Why should anyone have to walk through that wall of smoke just to enter a building?  You can't smell it, we can.  It takes your breath away.</p><p><br>Do your family a favor and don't smoke in the house or car.  Some states have passed a law that you can be arrested if caught smoking in a car with a child present.  Child endangerment!  And you are crying about what Iowa is going to pass.</p><p><br>Stsge IV Lung Cancer Survivor</p> No One Deserves Lung Cancer As far as I am concerned this bill is long past due.  You have to decide where your loyality lies:  to the bar or your cigarettes.  But the rest of us don't have to be subjected to your attitudes or your second hand smoke just because we too want to go out for an evening.

The bill does not go far enough.  It should not allow smoking within 150 feet of an entrance to a building of any type.  Why should anyone have to walk through that wall of smoke just to enter a building?  You can't smell it, we can.  It takes your breath away.

Do your family a favor and don't smoke in the house or car.  Some states have passed a law that you can be arrested if caught smoking in a car with a child present.  Child endangerment!  And you are crying about what Iowa is going to pass.

Stsge IV Lung Cancer Survivor

]]> By: zazu220 http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house/comment-page-1#comment-9836 zazu220 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:10:47 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house#comment-9836 <strong>wants to stay healthy</strong> "Wants to Stay Healthy" loves her job but not her customers.  If clean air means so much to her, why doesn't she look for another job instead of insisting everybody conform to what she wants? wants to stay healthy “Wants to Stay Healthy” loves her job but not her customers.  If clean air means so much to her, why doesn't she look for another job instead of insisting everybody conform to what she wants?

]]> By: addison http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house/comment-page-1#comment-9837 addison Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:41:37 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house#comment-9837 <strong>smoke bans destroy small businesses</strong> Smoking bans have demolished traditional pub culture in the British Isles.  In Ireland, over 600 pubs, mostly in ruaral areas, have closed since the ban in 2004.  In England, they are now closing at a rate of 62 per month, mostly in the poorer northern regions.  The same holds true for small-town watering holes in the US and Canada. smoke bans destroy small businesses Smoking bans have demolished traditional pub culture in the British Isles.  In Ireland, over 600 pubs, mostly in ruaral areas, have closed since the ban in 2004.  In England, they are now closing at a rate of 62 per month, mostly in the poorer northern regions.  The same holds true for small-town watering holes in the US and Canada.

]]> By: bzar http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house/comment-page-1#comment-9838 bzar Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:21:15 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house#comment-9838 <strong>you've got to be kidding</strong> Yeah, the first 2 posts sound like ads that came on TV here in NY after the ban telling everyone how bar workers "loved" the smoking ban.  In reality, they had protests cause they were losing money.  The first lady's a piece of work: she admits nonsmoking bars would lose money because most bar-goers either smoke or don't mind.  So she wants a law to give people no alternative to her crappy glorified ice cream parlor.  American democracy at work!!!!  <br><br>Forget the customers, does the family she works for know she's rooting for their business to go to hell??  Hope she's first in line when they have to hand out pink slips.</br> you've got to be kidding Yeah, the first 2 posts sound like ads that came on TV here in NY after the ban telling everyone how bar workers “loved” the smoking ban.  In reality, they had protests cause they were losing money.  The first lady's a piece of work: she admits nonsmoking bars would lose money because most bar-goers either smoke or don't mind.  So she wants a law to give people no alternative to her crappy glorified ice cream parlor.  American democracy at work!!!! 

Forget the customers, does the family she works for know she's rooting for their business to go to hell??  Hope she's first in line when they have to hand out pink slips.

]]> By: chris http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house/comment-page-1#comment-9839 chris Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:50:41 +0000 http://iowaindependent.com/1963/smoke-em-if-you-got-em-cigarette-ban-passed-by-house#comment-9839 <strong>"bartender in small town"????</strong> What do you care if smokers can drive somewhere else as long as your bar is smoke-free?  I don't think you're really a bartender or you'd know your best customers will leave and your tips will shrivel once a ban is put in place.  Go to <a href="http://dave.hitt.com">dave.hitt.com</a> for info on what smoking bans have done to small businesses and bartenders' earnings.<br><br>I'm curious--have you told your smoking customers you'd like to banish them???  Please do so soon so they have the opportunity to "thank" you.</br> “bartender in small town”???? What do you care if smokers can drive somewhere else as long as your bar is smoke-free?  I don't think you're really a bartender or you'd know your best customers will leave and your tips will shrivel once a ban is put in place.  Go to dave.hitt.com for info on what smoking bans have done to small businesses and bartenders' earnings.

I'm curious–have you told your smoking customers you'd like to banish them???  Please do so soon so they have the opportunity to “thank” you.

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