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		<title>By: PatrynXX</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatrynXX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 01:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Night Shift?&lt;/strong&gt; Hey I work the night shift.&#160; That&#039;s never stopped me from voting.&#160; I&#039;ve worked night shifts since 1996.&#160; Voted in 1996, 2000, 2004 and probably will for whatever reason in 2008 unless Hillary got the nod.&#160; Then I&#039;m not sure who I&#039;d vote for, but Congress is still up for grabs.&#160; It&#039;s not simply the President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Night Shift?</strong> Hey I work the night shift.&nbsp; That&#39;s never stopped me from voting.&nbsp; I&#39;ve worked night shifts since 1996.&nbsp; Voted in 1996, 2000, 2004 and probably will for whatever reason in 2008 unless Hillary got the nod.&nbsp; Then I&#39;m not sure who I&#39;d vote for, but Congress is still up for grabs.&nbsp; It&#39;s not simply the President.</p>
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		<title>By: ched</title>
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		<dc:creator>ched</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Have you heard of her calling anyone?&lt;/strong&gt; . . . I haven&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Have you heard of her calling anyone?</strong> . . . I haven&#39;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Batocchio</title>
		<link>http://iowaindependent.com/1772/clinton-understood-surface-not-spirit-of-caucuses/comment-page-1#comment-10591</link>
		<dc:creator>Batocchio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Thanks&lt;/strong&gt; Thanks for the perspective from on the ground.&#160; Much appreciated.&#160;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Thanks</strong> Thanks for the perspective from on the ground.&nbsp; Much appreciated.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Marc in Des Moines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc in Des Moines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;JD, You got this right&lt;/strong&gt; As someone who is very active on the Polk County Central Committee and spent seven months working on veterans issues for John Kerry in a winning campaign, I was contacted by every campaign staff save one - Clinton&#039;s.&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Barack Obama called me as well. The convincing part of that is that he is willing to work so hard to get the job done and is connecting with real people.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>JD, You got this right</strong> As someone who is very active on the Polk County Central Committee and spent seven months working on veterans issues for John Kerry in a winning campaign, I was contacted by every campaign staff save one &#8211; Clinton&#39;s.
<p>Barack Obama called me as well. The convincing part of that is that he is willing to work so hard to get the job done and is connecting with real people.</p>
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		<title>By: musa</title>
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		<dc:creator>musa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Spoiled Iowans&lt;/strong&gt; You guys are ridiculously spoiled. Phone calls from the candidate? I hope this nonsense of Iowans selecting the president will end sooner rather than later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Spoiled Iowans</strong> You guys are ridiculously spoiled. Phone calls from the candidate? I hope this nonsense of Iowans selecting the president will end sooner rather than later.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Charisma isn&#039;t the be-all, end-all&lt;/strong&gt; Just because someone is charismatic doesn&#039;t mean they will be a good leader and fight for the right things. Obama&#039;s voting record, as does Clinton&#039;s nullifies them from consideration as the candidate who will get our troops out of Iraq (Clinton probably won&#039;t get them home at all in the next 4 years), fight the corporate stranglehold on energy policy, and TRULY stand up to the Republicans and beat them at their own game, NOT try to work with the scumbags. Start some real investigation, and after the criminals among Republican Congress are actually HELD ACCOUNTABLE then we will see some real progress. Obama won&#039;t hold their feet to the fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Charisma isn&#39;t the be-all, end-all</strong> Just because someone is charismatic doesn&#39;t mean they will be a good leader and fight for the right things. Obama&#39;s voting record, as does Clinton&#39;s nullifies them from consideration as the candidate who will get our troops out of Iraq (Clinton probably won&#39;t get them home at all in the next 4 years), fight the corporate stranglehold on energy policy, and TRULY stand up to the Republicans and beat them at their own game, NOT try to work with the scumbags. Start some real investigation, and after the criminals among Republican Congress are actually HELD ACCOUNTABLE then we will see some real progress. Obama won&#39;t hold their feet to the fire.</p>
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		<title>By: IowaCubs</title>
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		<dc:creator>IowaCubs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Boo Hoo...&lt;/strong&gt; Quit your bellyaching, America.&#160; If you had a caucus system, there would be no Republican party.&#160; It&#039;s such a great party building exercise that you&#039;ll be thanking us for delivering our state for President Obama after we created 50,000 new activists here.&#160; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;A national primary would discourage party building in battleground states like Iowa and New Hampshire.&#160; The caucus system works, so get over it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Boo Hoo&#8230;</strong> Quit your bellyaching, America.&nbsp; If you had a caucus system, there would be no Republican party.&nbsp; It&#39;s such a great party building exercise that you&#39;ll be thanking us for delivering our state for President Obama after we created 50,000 new activists here.&nbsp;
<p>A national primary would discourage party building in battleground states like Iowa and New Hampshire.&nbsp; The caucus system works, so get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: IowaCubs</title>
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		<dc:creator>IowaCubs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;One JJ story...&lt;/strong&gt; One aside... prior to the Jefferson Jackson dinner, my wife and I were driving around trying to find a place to park in front of Vets auditorium.&#160; We have twin toddler boys, and forgot our stroller, so we wanted to park in the designated Hillary parking lot across the street.&#160; We explained our situation to the volunteer staffing the entrance to the lot, and she did everything in her power to stop us from parking there, so we ended up parking 7 blocks away, cursing Hillary&#039;s name the whole way.&#160; Maybe that&#039;s unfair, but that one act fired us up enough to begin volunteering on a more regular basis for Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>One JJ story&#8230;</strong> One aside&#8230; prior to the Jefferson Jackson dinner, my wife and I were driving around trying to find a place to park in front of Vets auditorium.&nbsp; We have twin toddler boys, and forgot our stroller, so we wanted to park in the designated Hillary parking lot across the street.&nbsp; We explained our situation to the volunteer staffing the entrance to the lot, and she did everything in her power to stop us from parking there, so we ended up parking 7 blocks away, cursing Hillary&#39;s name the whole way.&nbsp; Maybe that&#39;s unfair, but that one act fired us up enough to begin volunteering on a more regular basis for Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: IowaCubs</title>
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		<dc:creator>IowaCubs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I have a Hard time believing...&lt;/strong&gt; I have a hard time believing that Hillary doesn&#039;t call individual Iowans, and I think that this whole &quot;she doesn&#039;t understand Iowa&quot; thing is a tad overblown.&#160; I think it&#039;s one explanation, but it&#039;s not THE explanation.&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not a Hillary supporter by any means, in fact, she&#039;s probably my fourth choice, but I have serious doubts that she doesn&#039;t have a call list of like 1000 people that travels with her in her HILLacopter.&#160; Teresa Vilmain and most of HRC&#039;s staff have been around the block in Iowa, so they know what to expect.&#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do agree that she&#039;s a bit out of touch with the process, the lack of media access, etc., but I would be shocked if she didn&#039;t call average voters personally.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I have a Hard time believing&#8230;</strong> I have a hard time believing that Hillary doesn&#39;t call individual Iowans, and I think that this whole &#8220;she doesn&#39;t understand Iowa&#8221; thing is a tad overblown.&nbsp; I think it&#39;s one explanation, but it&#39;s not THE explanation.
<p>I&#39;m not a Hillary supporter by any means, in fact, she&#39;s probably my fourth choice, but I have serious doubts that she doesn&#39;t have a call list of like 1000 people that travels with her in her HILLacopter.&nbsp; Teresa Vilmain and most of HRC&#39;s staff have been around the block in Iowa, so they know what to expect.&nbsp; </p>
<p>I do agree that she&#39;s a bit out of touch with the process, the lack of media access, etc., but I would be shocked if she didn&#39;t call average voters personally.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Desider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Desider&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yuck, while Iowans might see this as &quot;authentic&quot; and &quot;spontaneous&quot;, some of us on the outside might see this as &quot;spoiled&quot; and &quot;selfish&quot;.&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think people have taken the &quot;public servant&quot; idea a bit too far. A candidate with a spine that will prostrate themselves to anyone to whine and wheedle a caucus vote out of them. I&#039;m sure this self-effacing nature will be useful when negotiating with Putin and Kim Jong Il.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Desider</strong> </p>
<p>Yuck, while Iowans might see this as &#8220;authentic&#8221; and &#8220;spontaneous&#8221;, some of us on the outside might see this as &#8220;spoiled&#8221; and &#8220;selfish&#8221;.
<p>I think people have taken the &#8220;public servant&#8221; idea a bit too far. A candidate with a spine that will prostrate themselves to anyone to whine and wheedle a caucus vote out of them. I&#39;m sure this self-effacing nature will be useful when negotiating with Putin and Kim Jong Il.</p>
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