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		<title>By: MomOf4</title>
		<link>http://iowaindependent.com/1753/huckabee-obama-hold-leads-in-new-register-poll/comment-page-1#comment-12270</link>
		<dc:creator>MomOf4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;If America needed ANOTHER southern state governor...&lt;/strong&gt; wouldn&#039;t we just continue with the pattern of Clinton and Bush?&#160; Makes no sense to me.&#160; I don&#039;t see the appeal of sticking with the status quo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>If America needed ANOTHER southern state governor&#8230;</strong> wouldn&#39;t we just continue with the pattern of Clinton and Bush?&nbsp; Makes no sense to me.&nbsp; I don&#39;t see the appeal of sticking with the status quo.</p>
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		<title>By: Duck Soup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duck Soup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;We need a uniter who will bring change&lt;/strong&gt; I love how Clinton says the Des Moines poll is wrong.&#160; &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/01/clinton_in_iowa.html&quot;&gt;http://blog.washingt...&lt;/a&gt;&#160; What a bunch of sour grapes.&#160; How statesmanlike of her.&#160; I am sure we will have more of the same if she is elected.&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;We need a unifier, not a whiner.&#160; Obama is the only candidate who members of the other party don&#039;t hate.&#160; He is the only unifier.&#160; United we stand.&#160; Divided we fall.&#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;It doesn&#039;t matter what the platform of any politician is, if the other side won&#039;t respect them nothing will get done.&#160; There can be no change.&#160; Pure steamrollering won&#039;t accomplish any change.&#160; Clinton will continue the policies of the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton cycle.&#160; It is too risky to continue these policies because they are not bringing us good results.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>We need a uniter who will bring change</strong> I love how Clinton says the Des Moines poll is wrong.&nbsp; <a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/01/clinton_in_iowa.html">http://blog.washingt&#8230;</a>&nbsp; What a bunch of sour grapes.&nbsp; How statesmanlike of her.&nbsp; I am sure we will have more of the same if she is elected.
<p>We need a unifier, not a whiner.&nbsp; Obama is the only candidate who members of the other party don&#39;t hate.&nbsp; He is the only unifier.&nbsp; United we stand.&nbsp; Divided we fall.&nbsp; </p>
<p>It doesn&#39;t matter what the platform of any politician is, if the other side won&#39;t respect them nothing will get done.&nbsp; There can be no change.&nbsp; Pure steamrollering won&#39;t accomplish any change.&nbsp; Clinton will continue the policies of the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton cycle.&nbsp; It is too risky to continue these policies because they are not bringing us good results.</p>
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		<title>By: desmoinesdem</title>
		<link>http://iowaindependent.com/1753/huckabee-obama-hold-leads-in-new-register-poll/comment-page-1#comment-12272</link>
		<dc:creator>desmoinesdem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;actually, Bush won Iowa by less than 1 percent&lt;/strong&gt; About 12,000 votes out of more than 1.5 million cast here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>actually, Bush won Iowa by less than 1 percent</strong> About 12,000 votes out of more than 1.5 million cast here.</p>
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		<title>By: desmoinesdem</title>
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		<dc:creator>desmoinesdem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;let&#039;s assume turnout is 200,000&lt;/strong&gt; Which would be a record and an enormous increase over the 124,000 who caucused in 2004.&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;The DMR model suggests that 60 percent of Democratic caucus attendees, or about 120,000, would be people who have never caucused before.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;The same model suggests that 80,000 people would be repeat caucus-goers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;So you are suggesting that one-third of people who caucused in 2004 will not be there? Sure, some have died, some have moved out of Iowa, and some may be out of town, but I am making voter contacts every day. The vast majority of people who caucused in 2004 will caucus again.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;To believe that 60 percent of caucus-goers will be first-timers, you have to believe in a massive record-breaking turnout.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s more realistic to expect turnout will be in the 150,000 range. The DMR is telling us that 90,000 of those people would be people who&#039;ve never caucused before, and just 60,000 would be people who have attended a caucus before. Not a chance.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>let&#39;s assume turnout is 200,000</strong> Which would be a record and an enormous increase over the 124,000 who caucused in 2004.
<p>The DMR model suggests that 60 percent of Democratic caucus attendees, or about 120,000, would be people who have never caucused before.</p>
<p>The same model suggests that 80,000 people would be repeat caucus-goers.</p>
<p>So you are suggesting that one-third of people who caucused in 2004 will not be there? Sure, some have died, some have moved out of Iowa, and some may be out of town, but I am making voter contacts every day. The vast majority of people who caucused in 2004 will caucus again.</p>
<p>To believe that 60 percent of caucus-goers will be first-timers, you have to believe in a massive record-breaking turnout.</p>
<p>It&#39;s more realistic to expect turnout will be in the 150,000 range. The DMR is telling us that 90,000 of those people would be people who&#39;ve never caucused before, and just 60,000 would be people who have attended a caucus before. Not a chance.</p>
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		<title>By: craigfarmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>craigfarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 09:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;DMR Poll was wrong about GE 2004&lt;/strong&gt; If the DMR poll is so good,&#160; How is it that they got the wrong results in Nov. of 2004.&#160; I remember them being different then, as most had Bush up.&#160; Yet, the &quot;they had the caucus right&quot; logic was prevalent.&#160; Their last poll had Kerry +3, the election was Bush +5.&#160; The fact is each election is different. There are different assumptions that must be made.&#160; That they were good in the caucus of 2004, bad for GE of 2004, makes no difference today.&#160; People should use common sense.&#160; For example:&#160; I notice any poll with Obama or Edwards doing better shows no gender gap for Hillary.&#160; Conversely, every time Hillary is doing well there is a gender gap.&#160; On election night we will have to see who&#039;s right? women-men equal for HIllary and the other 2; or Hillary has a lead among women.&#160; I like the fact the&#160; DMR and most other polls have given all of the information.&#160; This is a good process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>DMR Poll was wrong about GE 2004</strong> If the DMR poll is so good,&nbsp; How is it that they got the wrong results in Nov. of 2004.&nbsp; I remember them being different then, as most had Bush up.&nbsp; Yet, the &#8220;they had the caucus right&#8221; logic was prevalent.&nbsp; Their last poll had Kerry +3, the election was Bush +5.&nbsp; The fact is each election is different. There are different assumptions that must be made.&nbsp; That they were good in the caucus of 2004, bad for GE of 2004, makes no difference today.&nbsp; People should use common sense.&nbsp; For example:&nbsp; I notice any poll with Obama or Edwards doing better shows no gender gap for Hillary.&nbsp; Conversely, every time Hillary is doing well there is a gender gap.&nbsp; On election night we will have to see who&#39;s right? women-men equal for HIllary and the other 2; or Hillary has a lead among women.&nbsp; I like the fact the&nbsp; DMR and most other polls have given all of the information.&nbsp; This is a good process.</p>
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		<title>By: mihan</title>
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		<dc:creator>mihan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 09:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;As an Edwards partisan no doubt you find fault&lt;/strong&gt; in the results. &lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;the poll isn&#039;t suggesting that people who caucused in 2004 aren&#039;t going to caucus in 2008, but rather a large wave of first-timers will caucus. Believe it or not, at some point people go for the first time...happens every time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>As an Edwards partisan no doubt you find fault</strong> in the results.
<p>the poll isn&#39;t suggesting that people who caucused in 2004 aren&#39;t going to caucus in 2008, but rather a large wave of first-timers will caucus. Believe it or not, at some point people go for the first time&#8230;happens every time.</p>
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		<title>By: desmoinesdem</title>
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		<dc:creator>desmoinesdem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;at least one of these polls is an outlier&lt;/strong&gt; ARG had Clinton up by 14, DMR has Obama up by 7.&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;At least one of those is an outlier, and probably both are, given the number of other polls showing all three candidates within the margin of error.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Two things jumped out at me regarding the DMR poll. One, it predicts that 60 percent of Democratic caucus-goers will be first-timers. I find that simply impossible to believe. I&#039;ve been working my precinct, where we had 175 at the 2004 caucus. I have found very, very few people who attended in 2004 and do not plan to caucus again.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;If 60 percent of the caucus-goers are new, that would suggest a turnout in my precinct of at least 300 people. Seems impossible.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, the DMR projects that 40 percent of Democratic caucus-goers will be independents who changed their registration and 5 percent will be Republicans who changed their registration. In 2004 those numbers were 19 percent and 1 percent, respectively.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama&#039;s lead comes entirely from an assumed unprecedented turnout of first-time caucus-goers, independents and Republicans. I am not buying it, but we&#039;ll all find out on Thursday night.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>at least one of these polls is an outlier</strong> ARG had Clinton up by 14, DMR has Obama up by 7.
<p>At least one of those is an outlier, and probably both are, given the number of other polls showing all three candidates within the margin of error.</p>
<p>Two things jumped out at me regarding the DMR poll. One, it predicts that 60 percent of Democratic caucus-goers will be first-timers. I find that simply impossible to believe. I&#39;ve been working my precinct, where we had 175 at the 2004 caucus. I have found very, very few people who attended in 2004 and do not plan to caucus again.</p>
<p>If 60 percent of the caucus-goers are new, that would suggest a turnout in my precinct of at least 300 people. Seems impossible.</p>
<p>Also, the DMR projects that 40 percent of Democratic caucus-goers will be independents who changed their registration and 5 percent will be Republicans who changed their registration. In 2004 those numbers were 19 percent and 1 percent, respectively.</p>
<p>Obama&#39;s lead comes entirely from an assumed unprecedented turnout of first-time caucus-goers, independents and Republicans. I am not buying it, but we&#39;ll all find out on Thursday night.</p>
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		<title>By: Duck Soup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duck Soup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;We need a uniter who will bring change&lt;/strong&gt; I love how Clinton says the Des Moines poll is wrong.&#160; &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/01/clinton_in_iowa.html&quot;&gt;http://blog.washingt...&lt;/a&gt;&#160; What a bunch of sour grapes.&#160; How statesmanlike of her.&#160; I am sure we will have more of the same if she is elected.&lt;p&gt;
We need a unifier, not a whiner.&#160; Obama is the only candidate who members of the other party don&#039;t hate.&#160; He is the only unifier.&#160; United we stand.&#160; Divided we fall.&#160; &lt;p&gt;
It doesn&#039;t matter what the platform of any politician is, if the other side won&#039;t respect them nothing will get done.&#160; There can be no change.&#160; Pure steamrollering won&#039;t accomplish any change.&#160; Clinton will continue the policies of the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton cycle.&#160; It is too risky to continue these policies because they are not bringing us good results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>We need a uniter who will bring change</strong> I love how Clinton says the Des Moines poll is wrong.&nbsp; <a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/01/clinton_in_iowa.html">http://blog.washingt&#8230;</a>&nbsp; What a bunch of sour grapes.&nbsp; How statesmanlike of her.&nbsp; I am sure we will have more of the same if she is elected.
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We need a unifier, not a whiner.&nbsp; Obama is the only candidate who members of the other party don&#8217;t hate.&nbsp; He is the only unifier.&nbsp; United we stand.&nbsp; Divided we fall.&nbsp; </p>
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It doesn&#8217;t matter what the platform of any politician is, if the other side won&#8217;t respect them nothing will get done.&nbsp; There can be no change.&nbsp; Pure steamrollering won&#8217;t accomplish any change.&nbsp; Clinton will continue the policies of the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton cycle.&nbsp; It is too risky to continue these policies because they are not bringing us good results.</p>
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		<title>By: MomOf4</title>
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		<dc:creator>MomOf4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;If America needed ANOTHER southern state governor...&lt;/strong&gt; wouldn&#039;t we just continue with the pattern of Clinton and Bush?&#160; Makes no sense to me.&#160; I don&#039;t see the appeal of sticking with the status quo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>If America needed ANOTHER southern state governor&#8230;</strong> wouldn&#8217;t we just continue with the pattern of Clinton and Bush?&nbsp; Makes no sense to me.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t see the appeal of sticking with the status quo.</p>
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		<title>By: desmoinesdem</title>
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		<dc:creator>desmoinesdem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;let&#039;s assume turnout is 200,000&lt;/strong&gt; Which would be a record and an enormous increase over the 124,000 who caucused in 2004.&lt;p&gt;
The DMR model suggests that 60 percent of Democratic caucus attendees, or about 120,000, would be people who have never caucused before.&lt;p&gt;
The same model suggests that 80,000 people would be repeat caucus-goers.&lt;p&gt;
So you are suggesting that one-third of people who caucused in 2004 will not be there? Sure, some have died, some have moved out of Iowa, and some may be out of town, but I am making voter contacts every day. The vast majority of people who caucused in 2004 will caucus again.&lt;p&gt;
To believe that 60 percent of caucus-goers will be first-timers, you have to believe in a massive record-breaking turnout.&lt;p&gt;
It&#039;s more realistic to expect turnout will be in the 150,000 range. The DMR is telling us that 90,000 of those people would be people who&#039;ve never caucused before, and just 60,000 would be people who have attended a caucus before. Not a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>let&#8217;s assume turnout is 200,000</strong> Which would be a record and an enormous increase over the 124,000 who caucused in 2004.
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The DMR model suggests that 60 percent of Democratic caucus attendees, or about 120,000, would be people who have never caucused before.</p>
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The same model suggests that 80,000 people would be repeat caucus-goers.</p>
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So you are suggesting that one-third of people who caucused in 2004 will not be there? Sure, some have died, some have moved out of Iowa, and some may be out of town, but I am making voter contacts every day. The vast majority of people who caucused in 2004 will caucus again.</p>
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To believe that 60 percent of caucus-goers will be first-timers, you have to believe in a massive record-breaking turnout.</p>
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It&#8217;s more realistic to expect turnout will be in the 150,000 range. The DMR is telling us that 90,000 of those people would be people who&#8217;ve never caucused before, and just 60,000 would be people who have attended a caucus before. Not a chance.</p>
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