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By Lynda Waddington | 11.17.11

Wednesday was a difficult day for The American Independent News Network, which is the larger entity that operates The Iowa Independent. Our chief executive and founder announced two of our sister sites would close and their content would be moved to The American Independent.

ACS lockout continues; plan emerges to repeal sugar protections

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By Virginia Chamlee | 11.15.11

A recently introduced bill could have far-reaching impact on the U.S. sugar industry, including American Crystal Sugar, a farmer-owned cooperative that locked out 1,300 Midwest workers on Aug. 1.

Cain campaign: Farmers know more about regulations than EPA

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By Andrew Duffelmeyer | 11.15.11

The chairman for Herman Cain’s Iowa effort says the campaign “relied more on the word of farmers than Washington regulators” in deciding to run an ad containing claims the Environmental Protection Agency says are false.

Mathis wins, Democrats maintain Senate control

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By Lynda Waddington | 11.08.11

The Iowa Senate will remain under the control of a slim 26-25 Democratic majority when it reconvenes in January 2012.

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PR: Nation should work to address veterans’ challenges

By Press Release Reprints | 11.11.11

BRUCE BRALEY RELEASE — As US involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan ends, it’s more important than ever that our nation works to address the challenges faced by the men and women who fought there.

PR: Honoring veterans, help in hiring

By Press Release Reprints | 11.11.11

CHUCK GRASSLEY RELEASE — A difficult job market is challenging the soldiers, sailors and airmen who have protected America’s interests by serving in the Armed Forces.

PR: In honor of America’s veterans

By Press Release Reprints | 11.11.11

TOM LATHAM RELEASE — No one has done more to secure the freedom enjoyed by every single American than our veterans and those currently serving in the armed services.

PR: Honoring and supporting our nation’s veterans

By Press Release Reprints | 11.11.11

DAVE LOEBSACK RELEASE — Veterans Day is an opportunity to reflect on the service of generations of veterans and to honor the sacrifices they and their families have made so that we may live in peace and freedom here at home.

Obama Exposes Regional Difference With Clinton As Debate Turns For Him

By Douglas Burns | 11.15.07 | 11:12 pm

[Commentary] U.S. Sen. Barack Obama tonight turned in his strongest presidential debate performance and exposed a clear regional difference with front-runner Hillary Clinton.

Is $97,000 a lot of money? In most of Obama’s Illinois and just about all of Iowa, the answer to that is “yes,” which makes Obama’s position on the question of whether to raise or lift the cap on Social Security taxes more reasonable to Hawkeye State voters than the New York shape-shifting of Clinton.

As it stands, the first $97,500 of a person’s annual income is subject to the Social Security tax. Obama supports lifting that to shore up the future of the system while Clinton went with the nostalgia card, suggesting that she could resurrect the macroeconomic picture that prevailed under her husband and cause the Social Security problem to disappear without hard choices. She suggested that popping the cap would hurt middle-class Americans and argued that in some parts of the nation (namely high-priced New York City which she represents) $97,500 isn’t a lot of money. It would be interesting to hear her make that argument in Audubon County, Iowa, where the average home is worth half that much: $49,000.

In the CNN Nevada debate on the University of Nevada Las Vegas campus, Obama said only 6 percent of Americans make more than $97,500 and added that Clinton’s use of numbers amounted to a Republican-style manipulation.

“This is the kind of thing I would expect from Mitt Romney or Rudy Giuliani,” Obama said in perhaps his sharpest frontal political assault on Clinton.

Obama joined U.S. Sen. Joe Biden, a longtime member of the Judiciary Committee, as having the most solid answers on a question related to appointments of judges. Biden showed a clear understanding of the process, and has the scars from decades of fighting the culture wars on center court — Supreme Court justice hearings in the Senate.

But Obama’s answer connected more. A former constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago, Obama said he wanted to look for candidates who aren’t ivory-tower academics but rather people who understand the vulnerable.

Obama also earned significant points with the Hispanic community for supporting drivers’ licenses for illegal immigrants — a controversial issue on which his chief rivals either disagree with him or have heavily nuanced positions.

After watching Obama, Clinton and former U.S. Sen. John Edwards dust each other up in top-tier skirmishing, Biden, the Delaware Democrat and venerable senator, appeared as the steady old hand, perhaps the man you’d give the ship’s wheel to this instant.

“Who among us knows what they’re doing?” Biden asked.

Well, you …

Biden’s answers had the usual thoroughness, touches of Senate-speak, to be sure. But he stopped himself short when the penchant for long-windedness seemed about to take hold. Obama had nearly double the amount of “talk time” as Biden, so in a sense the comparison of the two senators in the debate format is fantastically unfair.

In the arena of international affairs, Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, exhibited his superior stature on the issues, noting that he had spoken recently with key figures in troubled Pakistan, even before President Bush. Biden also refused to pander on the issue of merit pay for teachers. Who decides whether a teacher is meriting? It makes more sense, said Biden, the husband of a teacher, to base increased pay on whether a teacher obtains advanced degrees.

North Carolinian Edwards barreled ahead with his populist message — and people in Nevada, based on the crowd reaction, appeared to be in a buying mood. He ripped Clinton for being a defender of a “rigged” and “corrupt” system, and while acknowledging that he, too, has changed positions over time (such as on the aforementioned drivers’ license question), he said Clinton seems to take seemingly two-faced positions in real time.

“There’s a difference between that (changing one’s mind) and saying two contrary things at the same time,” Edwards said.

And thinking about key pockets of voters, you have to give labor to Edwards tonight. He noted that with Democrats controlling the White House and Congress in the 1990s, the working class saw health care killed by big business but the passage of a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). Strong stuff from Edwards — and we know labor is listening. You could almost call the debate for him using this calculus alone.

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson stylistically had a better-than-usual debate perfomance. But for Richardson this comes down to one answer. He said that in some siutations human rights are more important than American security interests — perhaps a good turn of phrase for an ambassador to the United States but a major opening for Rudy or Republicans to run with in a general election — and something Hillary Clinton may have to consider if she looks to Richardson as a running mate as is widely speculated. Even in the middle of western Iowa one could hear the wheels turning in the heads of conservative consultants on this one.

Richardson had a no-nonsense answer on drivers’ licenses for immigration, which came as he articulated a comprehensive immigration reform package. With federal policy failing, states have no choice but to pick up the slack and attempt stopgap measures like the drivers’ license proposal.

“My law enforcement people said it’s a matter of public safety,” Richardson said.

Clinton started the night with a misfire — joking that her pantsuit was made of asbestos, presumably so she could handle the heat. Asbestos jokes aren’t funny to Iowans over 30, who had to go to schools in rundown buildings.

Clinton’s strongest moments came in explaining the role of gender in the campaign.

“People are not attacking me because I’m a woman,” Clinton said. “They’re attacking me because I’m ahead.”

Clinton had a strong answer on how to handle tainted toys from China: have a third-party investigator go over there. But she was effectivley backed into a box on the question of potential war with Iran because of her vote to designate the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization. Obama and Edwards continued to hammer her on that, and her nuanced explanation seemed lacking, giving rise to her opponents’ strategy to postion her as the most hawkish of the leading candidates on the Democratic side. Clinton did offer a detailed answer on this in an interview a few weeks ago with Iowa Independent.

Where Chris Dodd is concerned my biggest thought on his performance is connected to something Dr. Steven Kraus of Carroll observed the other night at the Jefferson-Jackson dinner: Dodd, a U.S. senator from Connecticut, and Obama clearly have respect for each other.

Dodd is simply a classy senator who can answer questions with reliable competency. Conventional thinking is that the Southwest will determine the 2008 election and that a Richardson vice presidential nomination makes sense because of this. But Dodd is fluent in Spanish as I saw firsthand when Lorena Lopez of La Prensa and I conducted a joint interview with him. If Obama gets the nomination Dodd complements him in a number of ways as a running mate — including his ability to campaign in Spanish.

And yes, Congressman Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, also stood on the stage.

Comments

  • desmoinesdem

    the discrepancy in time alloted is outrageous Has there been even one debate where Obama didn’t get significantly more time to speak than anyone else? He consistently gets double the time of some of the second-tier candidates (except for the AARP forum, which he skipped).

    Judy Woodruff should moderate every debate. She asked better questions, followed up appropriately, and gave the candidates more opportunity to answer.

  • MidwestMiddleClass

    Midwest Middle Class Mom thoughts Reading some of the Ireport feedbacks I think some voters have missed the point of common sense.  I think most of America is so angry with how things are right now they are not thinking correctly. First off to stand and say as Obama did that immigrants should have driver’s licenses as a matter of safety as his defense is not common sense. There is no huge death toll nation wide for death related vehicle accidents due to illegals. Why on earth would anyone think that an illegal immigrant should have a valid driver’s license? Is this so the rich in CA can have the house help drive for errands? Or is it so we can make it easier for illegal’s to take American jobs? This is a total sign of acceptance for people who are breaking the rules of this country. And for the posters who say without the illegal’s companies would not be able to stay in business and we would not have jobs…wake up. We don’t have jobs now because they have been taken by illegals. So you want to make it easier for them to drive to and from work? A business should operate within the laws of this country.  Business should be forced to stop the outsourcing and the hiring of illegal immigrants period. They should be given breaks to hire US citizen’s period. Those low paying jobs they outsource or use illegals would be perfectly suitable for our younger generation. Why not give those jobs to high school children or people who have not choice to go to college? Those are the people that should be doing those jobs. Those should be the stepping stones into companies for our younger generation. We need to protect America’s future for our children’s sake. As for the baby boomers and SS income. We should not raise the tax cap just because we are an angry nation wanting to lash out at the “rich man”. Stop for a moment and think about common sense. I wish Hillary would take the time to break this down so people could understand. When they argued that only 6% make about the cap…I don’t think they have accurate numbers nation wide. As Hillary said she doesn’t want to raise the cap so it does not hurt our middle class. Wake up America that pay range 97k to 150k is our middle class!! We have gotten so bad economy wise with cost of living inflation ect that it has targeted our middle class to extinction. 97500K is not what it was 20 years ago! This is the cost of living today for a middle class family. These people are not the rich! If we dwell on our anger with how the economy is now and let that blind us to wanting to target that range then all we are doing is breeding a country of just the poor and the rich. We would be working to deleting the middle class all together by raising the tax amount.  Hillary is correct by saying what we need to do is make Medicare less expensive and find other ways other than taxing our middle class for the SS income. These coming generations need to be taught not to depend solely on SS income and companies across the board need to be more active in 401k and pensions. Those are the rich. The company CEO’s. This should come out of their pockets for benefits that are forced. Forced 401k and savings that dip into the board and CEO’s paychecks. Those are the truly rich not our middle class. This would help with retirement for this working generation. I also notice the people clapping and playing the Iraq card of bring our soldiers home. I agree the war needs to end. But the war is not going to end with “hugs” and “kisses”. You can not pull out 100% of our troops and think America will be safe! There has to be some special ops working in the area to protect us from a group of countries who hate America. This is not the 60′s peace and love movement. We need a strong president. We need sanctions. We need to pull the majority of our troops out. We need diplomacy not to run away leaving our back door open to attacks! Hillary is the only one that is honest about how this has to take place. The others want to say what the angry public wants to hear. How they will pull everyone out. They can’t do that and aspect the American people to be safe. And who on earth would elect a president who doesn’t put America first. That is the president’s job to make this the best country. American national security is more important than human rights in other countries. Period! America needs to come first. The more we police the more anti American other societies will be. Let them deal with their own issues and build America first and foremost strong. Clinton did the correct thing by voting against Iran. Clinton wasn’t voteing to go to war with Iran! She doesn’t want to go to war but she understands that without some sanctions and diplomacy they are not going to “behave”! They hate America. They are not just going to sit down and say oh ok its hug and kiss time. Who on earth would leave the backdoor totally open to these threats? We are and will be their targets! We need to stop looking at this election with our angry emotions due to Bush. We need to start looking at this the correct way that is best for our future otherwise all we would be doing is voting another “Bush” mistake into the Oval Office. Mud slinging is useless. I think based on the debates Clinton is the best candidate. Remember voters we need to elect the best candidate that will also be able to take all control from the Republicans and fix this mess! Democrats need to vote for who will win the Oval office! That is the end game.

  • Mary Stylianopoulos

    Edwards did just fine Good on you Douglas. I watched the debate and I thought that Edwards did just fine when he was given the opportunity to speak. Everyone else seems to be writing that he absolutely tanked. This doesn’t surprise me. Further, the booing from the Clinton supporters was just unprofessional. This kind of distraction that Clinton needed will not be supplied to her if she’s to become the nominee and it’s just her and the Republican nominee on stage.

  • zennie

    Barack Is the Winner By A Landslide! It’s clear to me that Senator Obama was not only the clear winner, but — as the poster above shows — really did bloody Senator Clinton with the matter of what “middle class” incomes levels are, versus what’s covered in Clinton’s plan. 

    http://zennie2005.bl…

  • hawkeyesophomore

    Paul Krugman Thanks, but I will believe Paul Krugman, the economist, over you. He says, look the video from ABC’s This Week, that her position on Social Security is the best. He and all the other panelists wonder why obama is tinkering or threatening to change Social Security, which isn’t in huge trouble as republicans claim. Also, why has obama hired a chief sponsor of PRIVATIZATION who worked with John McCain’s people during the Social Security fight to kill privatization? And btw, it was clear obama flopped again last night. He stuttered, stumbled, and was stopped up. He was rightly booed by the audience for continuing to attack his Democratic opponenets instead of the US’s problems. She destroyed him on health care. His plan sucks compared to Clinton’s, Edwards’,and the others. He would be dessimated in a general election debate against someone like rudy giuliani or john mccain. I don’t want to lose again. She wins Arkansas, Kentucky, Florida, Virginia, West Virginia, Ohio, and yes, Iowa, in the general, on top of the states Kerry won. Obama and Edwards lose us these states, and put some usually blue states in play, esp. New York when up against giuliani.She beat their a**es last night (:

  • Tad

    Hillary is the Corporate Democrat Hillary Clinton’s corporate lobbyist side was showing last night during the debate. She is a shape shifting socialist, connected to the insurance industry lobby and takes money from the Chinese government through people like Hsu.

      Ask yourself this…. Where has she been tested?
    What values do you want your children and grandchildren to get from the President of the U.S?

      “And this pantsuit is asbestos tonight” It better be cause these guys are gonna be right on her lieing caboose!

  • Peoria ILguy!

    Hillary lost the Union Vote. Hillary changes faster than a chamelion, flip floping and looking right into the camera to lie. Where there should be a heart, I see a computer chip. Obama has the sense to be optimistic and up beat, but if Hillary get the nomination most the UAW and my fellow workers will vote Republican.
      ABC… Anybody but Clinton.

      We have too many problems to have the baggage lady come into the White House. Nafta , Bill Clintons blunder took our jobs,now Hillary wants to bring Illegals here to lower our standard of living and take the jobs we have left.
      ABC… Anybody but Clinton.

  • MarkieBee

    If Wolf Blitzed wouldn’t interrupt Take out all the interruptions from Wolf Blizter whenever Obama was talking and then recalculate the time Obama got. I think you’ll find it much closer to the other candidates. If Blitzed (yes, I know it’s Blitzer but he seemed like he was on a Vegas bender) would have allowed Obama to finish his answers perhaps more candidates would have received more time. CNN looked amateurish all night and the post-debate analysis from a pair of Clinton administration hacks and an irrelevent Republican in JC Watts was a joke. Kind of like asking Karl Rove what he thinks of the job George W. Bush is doing. Now that’s some cogent impartial analysis…geez.

  • Brockmc88

    In Response to Few Deaths from Illegal Immigrants without Licenses This is to MidwestMiddleClass. Your right that there may not be any national statistics that reveal how many deaths have been caused by illegal immigrants not having proper drivers’ licenses, but Barack Obama is from Illinois. The former Republican Governor of Illinois, George Ryan, was just recently sent to prison for handing out free drivers’ licenses to illegals without safety courses. One of the results was a car wreck in which a girl burned alive. Illegal immigrants do need a way of receiveing safety courses to get licenses which will result in safer roads and a form of ID for undocumented citizens. It’s not rewarding illegal immigrants because they will drive with or without drivers’ licenses. It’s like Obama said, they don’t come to America to drive, they come for jobs.

  • annefrank

    Edwards has good solution! WooHoo! Sept. 26 debate –

    I do have some difference with some of our colleagues who I’ve heard talk about this. I think we have to be very careful to protect the middle class, so, specifically — if I can be very specific — what I would do as president is I would create a protective zone between 97,000 (dollars) up to around 200,000 (dollars) because there are a lot of firefighter couples, for example, that make $100(,000), $115,000 a year. We don’t want to raise taxes on them. But I do believe that people who make $50 (million), $75 (million), $100 million a year ought to be paying Social Security taxes on that income.

    http://www.nytimes.c…

  • annefrank

    Edwards has good solution! WooHoo! Sept. 26 debate –

    I do have some difference with some of our colleagues who I’ve heard talk about this. I think we have to be very careful to protect the middle class, so, specifically — if I can be very specific — what I would do as president is I would create a protective zone between 97,000 (dollars) up to around 200,000 (dollars) because there are a lot of firefighter couples, for example, that make $100(,000), $115,000 a year. We don’t want to raise taxes on them. But I do believe that people who make $50 (million), $75 (million), $100 million a year ought to be paying Social Security taxes on that income.

    http://www.nytimes.c…

  • voice of reason

    driver’s licenses protect you If somebody driving a motor vehicle injures you, would you like that person to have insurance to cover your medical expenses? Would you like them to have some kind of documentation establishing their identity and address? If so, then you are in favor of issuing driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants.
    Issuing licenses to such drivers makes it easier for them to obtain insurance, lowers auto insurance costs for others, and increases public safety (since to obtain a driver’s license, people have to take a course and learn the rules of the road).
    It is important to note that the type of driver’s license that NY proposed to issue to illegal immigrants (the source of this subject in the Democratic debates) could not have been be used to obtain other types of ID, to open bank accounts, or for any other purpose requiring a federally approved ID. In fact, the NY proposal (which has now been abandoned, thanks to the uninformed uproar arising from the Dem debate question on this subject) was described as “a major step forward for security, both for New York and for the country” — by Michael Chertoff, the current U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security.

  • shaflo3

    National financial support system Do you candidates truly understand that we have not had an effective financial support system put in place to directly advance the potential of the working class of this country, in over 70 years? At the end of the day what are they going to do for our economy. If Americans do not know it by now, our economy and our ability to live comfortable, for the everyday working American is in trouble. We have created programs that spend the money, but we have not created support systems to generate more finance to fund these programs and prepare us for the future. It is not the only solution that we will have to come up with, but it will be able to fund a lot of the solutions that we do come up with for generations to come. It is time to take a serious look at the 3 Billion dollar Project. The duplication of this 30 month prototype with fiscal responsibility built in it from start to finish. Will guarantee the strengthening of our economy, and our ability to move from our dependency on middle east oil to alternative fuels and energy. With the major players in oil leading the way like they should to a healthier environment, and sound productivity.

  • desmoinesdem

    the discrepancy in time alloted is outrageous Has there been even one debate where Obama didn't get significantly more time to speak than anyone else? He consistently gets double the time of some of the second-tier candidates (except for the AARP forum, which he skipped).

    Judy Woodruff should moderate every debate. She asked better questions, followed up appropriately, and gave the candidates more opportunity to answer.

  • MidwestMiddleClass

    Midwest Middle Class Mom thoughts Reading some of the Ireport feedbacks I think some voters have missed the point of common sense.  I think most of America is so angry with how things are right now they are not thinking correctly. First off to stand and say as Obama did that immigrants should have driver's licenses as a matter of safety as his defense is not common sense. There is no huge death toll nation wide for death related vehicle accidents due to illegals. Why on earth would anyone think that an illegal immigrant should have a valid driver's license? Is this so the rich in CA can have the house help drive for errands? Or is it so we can make it easier for illegal's to take American jobs? This is a total sign of acceptance for people who are breaking the rules of this country. And for the posters who say without the illegal's companies would not be able to stay in business and we would not have jobs…wake up. We don't have jobs now because they have been taken by illegals. So you want to make it easier for them to drive to and from work? A business should operate within the laws of this country.  Business should be forced to stop the outsourcing and the hiring of illegal immigrants period. They should be given breaks to hire US citizen's period. Those low paying jobs they outsource or use illegals would be perfectly suitable for our younger generation. Why not give those jobs to high school children or people who have not choice to go to college? Those are the people that should be doing those jobs. Those should be the stepping stones into companies for our younger generation. We need to protect America's future for our children's sake. As for the baby boomers and SS income. We should not raise the tax cap just because we are an angry nation wanting to lash out at the “rich man”. Stop for a moment and think about common sense. I wish Hillary would take the time to break this down so people could understand. When they argued that only 6% make about the cap…I don't think they have accurate numbers nation wide. As Hillary said she doesn't want to raise the cap so it does not hurt our middle class. Wake up America that pay range 97k to 150k is our middle class!! We have gotten so bad economy wise with cost of living inflation ect that it has targeted our middle class to extinction. 97500K is not what it was 20 years ago! This is the cost of living today for a middle class family. These people are not the rich! If we dwell on our anger with how the economy is now and let that blind us to wanting to target that range then all we are doing is breeding a country of just the poor and the rich. We would be working to deleting the middle class all together by raising the tax amount.  Hillary is correct by saying what we need to do is make Medicare less expensive and find other ways other than taxing our middle class for the SS income. These coming generations need to be taught not to depend solely on SS income and companies across the board need to be more active in 401k and pensions. Those are the rich. The company CEO's. This should come out of their pockets for benefits that are forced. Forced 401k and savings that dip into the board and CEO's paychecks. Those are the truly rich not our middle class. This would help with retirement for this working generation. I also notice the people clapping and playing the Iraq card of bring our soldiers home. I agree the war needs to end. But the war is not going to end with “hugs” and “kisses”. You can not pull out 100% of our troops and think America will be safe! There has to be some special ops working in the area to protect us from a group of countries who hate America. This is not the 60's peace and love movement. We need a strong president. We need sanctions. We need to pull the majority of our troops out. We need diplomacy not to run away leaving our back door open to attacks! Hillary is the only one that is honest about how this has to take place. The others want to say what the angry public wants to hear. How they will pull everyone out. They can't do that and aspect the American people to be safe. And who on earth would elect a president who doesn't put America first. That is the president's job to make this the best country. American national security is more important than human rights in other countries. Period! America needs to come first. The more we police the more anti American other societies will be. Let them deal with their own issues and build America first and foremost strong. Clinton did the correct thing by voting against Iran. Clinton wasn't voteing to go to war with Iran! She doesn't want to go to war but she understands that without some sanctions and diplomacy they are not going to “behave”! They hate America. They are not just going to sit down and say oh ok its hug and kiss time. Who on earth would leave the backdoor totally open to these threats? We are and will be their targets! We need to stop looking at this election with our angry emotions due to Bush. We need to start looking at this the correct way that is best for our future otherwise all we would be doing is voting another “Bush” mistake into the Oval Office. Mud slinging is useless. I think based on the debates Clinton is the best candidate. Remember voters we need to elect the best candidate that will also be able to take all control from the Republicans and fix this mess! Democrats need to vote for who will win the Oval office! That is the end game.

  • Mary Stylianopoulos

    Edwards did just fine Good on you Douglas. I watched the debate and I thought that Edwards did just fine when he was given the opportunity to speak. Everyone else seems to be writing that he absolutely tanked. This doesn't surprise me. Further, the booing from the Clinton supporters was just unprofessional. This kind of distraction that Clinton needed will not be supplied to her if she's to become the nominee and it's just her and the Republican nominee on stage.

  • zennie

    Barack Is the Winner By A Landslide! It's clear to me that Senator Obama was not only the clear winner, but — as the poster above shows — really did bloody Senator Clinton with the matter of what “middle class” incomes levels are, versus what's covered in Clinton's plan. 

    http://zennie2005.bl…

  • hawkeyesophomore

    Paul Krugman Thanks, but I will believe Paul Krugman, the economist, over you. He says, look the video from ABC's This Week, that her position on Social Security is the best. He and all the other panelists wonder why obama is tinkering or threatening to change Social Security, which isn't in huge trouble as republicans claim. Also, why has obama hired a chief sponsor of PRIVATIZATION who worked with John McCain's people during the Social Security fight to kill privatization? And btw, it was clear obama flopped again last night. He stuttered, stumbled, and was stopped up. He was rightly booed by the audience for continuing to attack his Democratic opponenets instead of the US's problems. She destroyed him on health care. His plan sucks compared to Clinton's, Edwards',and the others. He would be dessimated in a general election debate against someone like rudy giuliani or john mccain. I don't want to lose again. She wins Arkansas, Kentucky, Florida, Virginia, West Virginia, Ohio, and yes, Iowa, in the general, on top of the states Kerry won. Obama and Edwards lose us these states, and put some usually blue states in play, esp. New York when up against giuliani.She beat their a**es last night (:

  • Anonymous

    Another Midwest Middle Class Mom

    Iran — it is all about Iran, but not for the reasons you stated. The candidates cannot, on one hand, say that they were wrong to provide George W. Bush authority to act on Iraq and then, on the other hand, turn around and give him similar authority on Iran. “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.” There is no spinning it — authority was given to an individual and an administration we know to be untrustworthy.

    As for Social Security and the middle class. If middle class is outlined as you suggest — between $97,000 and $150,000 — then the cap must be raised. The reason being that Social Security was put in place to help provide for the middle class, those people who work their entire lives providing for themselves and their families. To not raise the cap and not mandate that all equally contribute to this system provides two messages:

    <ol>
    <li>We do not value our nation's elderly and working/middle class
    </li><li>We are not a nation that cares for and provides for its own
    </li></ol>

    The longer we stay in Iraq, the less safe we become. As a bumper sticker I once saw read: “We are creating enemies faster than we can kill them.”

    This was a war of convenience for the Bush administration and it will scar our nation for generations. The only thing we can do now is attempt to lessen the damage. Our men and women have completed their mission and it is now time to bring them home. Violence begets violence and soldiers were never meant to be humanitarian workers. Bring them home and let's work with the world and Iraq's neighbors to bring an end to the civil war we've created.

    Finally… am I angry with the Bush administration? Oh yeah. More importantly, however, I want to put someone of a completely different ilk into the White House so that the damage (to our Constitution, to our Civil Liberties, to our judicial system, to our reputation, to our trust-worthiness, to our working class, to our economy, to our businesses, to our small towns, to our education system, to our health care system, to our environment, to our natural resources, et al) can begin down what is sure to be a long road of recovery.

    As a middle class mom of three I want what every American parent has wanted to for decades: the opportunity for my children to build better lives than the one I've created. The bottom line is that will not happen so long as our leaders continue with business-as-usual.

  • aks06

    $97,000 clarification I just wanted to make sure that you knew the 97K is in reference to an INDIVIDUAL income and not a combined family income of 97K.  Huge difference. 

  • aks06

    Your source? If you think the 6% is not accurate, please state your source.  Because you don't think it is, doesn't make it so.  I would like to know if that wasn't correct as well. 

  • Tad

    Hillary is the Corporate Democrat Hillary Clinton's corporate lobbyist side was showing last night during the debate. She is a shape shifting socialist, connected to the insurance industry lobby and takes money from the Chinese government through people like Hsu.

      Ask yourself this…. Where has she been tested?

    What values do you want your children and grandchildren to get from the President of the U.S?

      “And this pantsuit is asbestos tonight” It better be cause these guys are gonna be right on her lieing caboose!

  • Peoria ILguy!

    Hillary lost the Union Vote. Hillary changes faster than a chamelion, flip floping and looking right into the camera to lie. Where there should be a heart, I see a computer chip. Obama has the sense to be optimistic and up beat, but if Hillary get the nomination most the UAW and my fellow workers will vote Republican.
      ABC… Anybody but Clinton.

      We have too many problems to have the baggage lady come into the White House. Nafta , Bill Clintons blunder took our jobs,now Hillary wants to bring Illegals here to lower our standard of living and take the jobs we have left.

      ABC… Anybody but Clinton.

  • anon1234

    Obama is a better candidate MMM–Hillary couldn't brow beat the Republicans into joining her before on health care, what makes you think she could so easily defeat the Republican nominee in a debate?  Make no mistake, Republicans are chomping at the bit to debate Hillary, a politician whose public office career was essentially built on the back of her husband's record. I say to Democrats, let's not vote for Hillary just because we like her husband. Let's vote for the candidate who has the strongest combination of ability and quality. I don't dislike Hillary, but she is no shoe-in for the presidency if she is the nominee.

  • anon1234

    Re: Paul Krugman Obama had every right to attack his opponents, democrat or republican.  Sheesh, he's not running for student council president.  The Clinton camp needs to stop personalizing every criticism of her record.  It just makes them look like a bunch of babies.  And why doesn't Clinton attack Obama on his record?  Simple.  Because she can't.  Do you really think the Republicans would have an easier time beating Obama in a debate?  You are in a fantasy world if you think Hillary has all the independent voters locked up simply due to her husband's record.  Republicans and Independents, when given the choice of democratic candidates, gravitate toward Obama, not Hillary. 

  • MarkieBee

    If Wolf Blitzed wouldn't interrupt Take out all the interruptions from Wolf Blizter whenever Obama was talking and then recalculate the time Obama got. I think you'll find it much closer to the other candidates. If Blitzed (yes, I know it's Blitzer but he seemed like he was on a Vegas bender) would have allowed Obama to finish his answers perhaps more candidates would have received more time. CNN looked amateurish all night and the post-debate analysis from a pair of Clinton administration hacks and an irrelevent Republican in JC Watts was a joke. Kind of like asking Karl Rove what he thinks of the job George W. Bush is doing. Now that's some cogent impartial analysis…geez.

  • Brockmc88

    In Response to Few Deaths from Illegal Immigrants without Licenses This is to MidwestMiddleClass. Your right that there may not be any national statistics that reveal how many deaths have been caused by illegal immigrants not having proper drivers' licenses, but Barack Obama is from Illinois. The former Republican Governor of Illinois, George Ryan, was just recently sent to prison for handing out free drivers' licenses to illegals without safety courses. One of the results was a car wreck in which a girl burned alive. Illegal immigrants do need a way of receiveing safety courses to get licenses which will result in safer roads and a form of ID for undocumented citizens. It's not rewarding illegal immigrants because they will drive with or without drivers' licenses. It's like Obama said, they don't come to America to drive, they come for jobs.

  • Sue the libertarian

    Social Security Hillary made a point to lecture Obama on how to fix Soc. Security.  She said Reagan and Tip O'Neill had fixed it with a bi-partisan commission. 

    Oh really? 

    If it was fixed in 83, why do we need it fixed again?

    Because tax increases are spent, they are never a very good solution.  The fix in 83 was supposed to put extra money in the lockbox.  But of course, that was spent and with deficit spending, the amount in the lockbox is less than zero.. its a debt.

  • Sue the libertarian

    League of Women Voters Judy might be a better choice than most.  But back in the good old days, the League of Women Voters moderated all debates.  It certainly brought out real issues and no planted questions.  They also closely followed rules of debate.

    What a great idea. So of course, no candidate will go there anymore just like the republicans won't go on tavis smiley and the dems won't go on fox.

  • annefrank

    Edwards has good solution! WooHoo! Sept. 26 debate –

    I do have some difference with some of our colleagues who I've heard talk about this. I think we have to be very careful to protect the middle class, so, specifically — if I can be very specific — what I would do as president is I would create a protective zone between 97,000 (dollars) up to around 200,000 (dollars) because there are a lot of firefighter couples, for example, that make $100(,000), $115,000 a year. We don't want to raise taxes on them. But I do believe that people who make $50 (million), $75 (million), $100 million a year ought to be paying Social Security taxes on that income.

    http://www.nytimes.c…

  • annefrank

    Edwards has good solution! WooHoo! Sept. 26 debate –

    I do have some difference with some of our colleagues who I've heard talk about this. I think we have to be very careful to protect the middle class, so, specifically — if I can be very specific — what I would do as president is I would create a protective zone between 97,000 (dollars) up to around 200,000 (dollars) because there are a lot of firefighter couples, for example, that make $100(,000), $115,000 a year. We don't want to raise taxes on them. But I do believe that people who make $50 (million), $75 (million), $100 million a year ought to be paying Social Security taxes on that income.

    http://www.nytimes.c…

  • batting1000

    The Krugmann Delusional Even the mighty Paul Krugmann can get it wrong sometimes because what Barack Obama is talking about is STRENGTHENING Social Security so that the FULL benefit is there when it's needed (no raising the retirement age or receiving only 70% of the benefits). Wait, perhaps it's even possible to IMPROVE Social Security's retirement package – what a concept!

    As far as Hillary's so called health care reform, it makes one wonder if she's capable or willing to use government for the people's betterment. How can her plan (and Edwards's) mandate/force someone to continue paying into the for-profit-insurance-scam-system. What about fighting for human dignity and a basic human right in an advanced, civilised(?) society. Why do Americans settle for mediocrity? 

    The best plan is obviously Kucinich's “Medicare-for-all”, which should include all veterans, elected representatives, and other public sector plans in one big mix with everyone else.

    Unfortunately, Hillary is lacking the VISION-THING, desperately needed after the Bush nightmare. It's not good enough to slide on by anymore with superficial pronouncements and the lowest possible denominator. Please challenge us!!

  • voice of reason

    driver's licenses protect you If somebody driving a motor vehicle injures you, would you like that person to have insurance to cover your medical expenses? Would you like them to have some kind of documentation establishing their identity and address? If so, then you are in favor of issuing driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.

    Issuing licenses to such drivers makes it easier for them to obtain insurance, lowers auto insurance costs for others, and increases public safety (since to obtain a driver's license, people have to take a course and learn the rules of the road).

    It is important to note that the type of driver's license that NY proposed to issue to illegal immigrants (the source of this subject in the Democratic debates) could not have been be used to obtain other types of ID, to open bank accounts, or for any other purpose requiring a federally approved ID. In fact, the NY proposal (which has now been abandoned, thanks to the uninformed uproar arising from the Dem debate question on this subject) was described as “a major step forward for security, both for New York and for the country” — by Michael Chertoff, the current U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security.

  • G Davis

    I don't mean to interrupt… I don't mean to interrupt, but I'm a working farmer from Washington State and love reading what life's like in the MidWest.

    I have a slight correction to your post anne…and Edwards should know this before he says it…

    He uses the example of firefighter couples who make around 100,000 a year so he wants to protect them from tax increases, right?  SS tax is based on each individual salary…what they make as a couple is irrelevant.  So his donut hole will do nothing for the firefighter couple.

    All that said, if there's going to be any exceptions made, why not make the first 20,000 SS tax free and tax everyone over that at the same rate?  That would protect all the young people (students, young starting couples, etc), the really poor folks.  Seems a lot more fair to me, but then I can only dream about making 97,000 a year! ;0

    Thanks for letting me butt in.  I enjoy your blog!

  • shaflo3

    National financial support system Do you candidates truly understand that we have not had an effective financial support system put in place to directly advance the potential of the working class of this country, in over 70 years? At the end of the day what are they going to do for our economy. If Americans do not know it by now, our economy and our ability to live comfortable, for the everyday working American is in trouble. We have created programs that spend the money, but we have not created support systems to generate more finance to fund these programs and prepare us for the future. It is not the only solution that we will have to come up with, but it will be able to fund a lot of the solutions that we do come up with for generations to come. It is time to take a serious look at the 3 Billion dollar Project. The duplication of this 30 month prototype with fiscal responsibility built in it from start to finish. Will guarantee the strengthening of our economy, and our ability to move from our dependency on middle east oil to alternative fuels and energy. With the major players in oil leading the way like they should to a healthier environment, and sound productivity.

  • tiberiu84

    Many people joke about asbestos and its effects on our health, but the increasing number of mesothelioma lawsuits is telling us a different about a different reality where asbestos can kill you.

  • tiberiu84

    Many people joke about asbestos and its effects on our health, but the increasing number of mesothelioma lawsuits is telling us a different about a different reality where asbestos can kill you.

  • tiberiu84

    Many people joke about asbestos and its effects on our health, but the increasing number of mesothelioma lawsuits is telling us a different about a different reality where asbestos can kill you.

  • Anonymous

    Another Midwest Middle Class Mom

    Iran — it is all about Iran, but not for the reasons you stated. The candidates cannot, on one hand, say that they were wrong to provide George W. Bush authority to act on Iraq and then, on the other hand, turn around and give him similar authority on Iran. “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.” There is no spinning it — authority was given to an individual and an administration we know to be untrustworthy.

    As for Social Security and the middle class. If middle class is outlined as you suggest — between $97,000 and $150,000 — then the cap must be raised. The reason being that Social Security was put in place to help provide for the middle class, those people who work their entire lives providing for themselves and their families. To not raise the cap and not mandate that all equally contribute to this system provides two messages:

    1. We do not value our nation’s elderly and working/middle class
    2. We are not a nation that cares for and provides for its own

    The longer we stay in Iraq, the less safe we become. As a bumper sticker I once saw read: “We are creating enemies faster than we can kill them.”

    This was a war of convenience for the Bush administration and it will scar our nation for generations. The only thing we can do now is attempt to lessen the damage. Our men and women have completed their mission and it is now time to bring them home. Violence begets violence and soldiers were never meant to be humanitarian workers. Bring them home and let’s work with the world and Iraq’s neighbors to bring an end to the civil war we’ve created.

    Finally… am I angry with the Bush administration? Oh yeah. More importantly, however, I want to put someone of a completely different ilk into the White House so that the damage (to our Constitution, to our Civil Liberties, to our judicial system, to our reputation, to our trust-worthiness, to our working class, to our economy, to our businesses, to our small towns, to our education system, to our health care system, to our environment, to our natural resources, et al) can begin down what is sure to be a long road of recovery.

    As a middle class mom of three I want what every American parent has wanted to for decades: the opportunity for my children to build better lives than the one I’ve created. The bottom line is that will not happen so long as our leaders continue with business-as-usual.

  • aks06

    $97,000 clarification I just wanted to make sure that you knew the 97K is in reference to an INDIVIDUAL income and not a combined family income of 97K.  Huge difference. 

  • aks06

    Your source? If you think the 6% is not accurate, please state your source.  Because you don’t think it is, doesn’t make it so.  I would like to know if that wasn’t correct as well. 

  • anon1234

    Obama is a better candidate MMM–Hillary couldn’t brow beat the Republicans into joining her before on health care, what makes you think she could so easily defeat the Republican nominee in a debate?  Make no mistake, Republicans are chomping at the bit to debate Hillary, a politician whose public office career was essentially built on the back of her husband’s record. I say to Democrats, let’s not vote for Hillary just because we like her husband. Let’s vote for the candidate who has the strongest combination of ability and quality. I don’t dislike Hillary, but she is no shoe-in for the presidency if she is the nominee.

  • anon1234

    Re: Paul Krugman Obama had every right to attack his opponents, democrat or republican.  Sheesh, he’s not running for student council president.  The Clinton camp needs to stop personalizing every criticism of her record.  It just makes them look like a bunch of babies.  And why doesn’t Clinton attack Obama on his record?  Simple.  Because she can’t.  Do you really think the Republicans would have an easier time beating Obama in a debate?  You are in a fantasy world if you think Hillary has all the independent voters locked up simply due to her husband’s record.  Republicans and Independents, when given the choice of democratic candidates, gravitate toward Obama, not Hillary. 

  • batting1000

    The Krugmann Delusional Even the mighty Paul Krugmann can get it wrong sometimes because what Barack Obama is talking about is STRENGTHENING Social Security so that the FULL benefit is there when it’s needed (no raising the retirement age or receiving only 70% of the benefits). Wait, perhaps it’s even possible to IMPROVE Social Security’s retirement package – what a concept!

    As far as Hillary’s so called health care reform, it makes one wonder if she’s capable or willing to use government for the people’s betterment. How can her plan (and Edwards’s) mandate/force someone to continue paying into the for-profit-insurance-scam-system. What about fighting for human dignity and a basic human right in an advanced, civilised(?) society. Why do Americans settle for mediocrity? 

    The best plan is obviously Kucinich’s “Medicare-for-all”, which should include all veterans, elected representatives, and other public sector plans in one big mix with everyone else.

    Unfortunately, Hillary is lacking the VISION-THING, desperately needed after the Bush nightmare. It’s not good enough to slide on by anymore with superficial pronouncements and the lowest possible denominator. Please challenge us!!

  • Sue the libertarian

    Social Security Hillary made a point to lecture Obama on how to fix Soc. Security.  She said Reagan and Tip O’Neill had fixed it with a bi-partisan commission. 

    Oh really? 

    If it was fixed in 83, why do we need it fixed again?

    Because tax increases are spent, they are never a very good solution.  The fix in 83 was supposed to put extra money in the lockbox.  But of course, that was spent and with deficit spending, the amount in the lockbox is less than zero.. its a debt.

  • Sue the libertarian

    League of Women Voters Judy might be a better choice than most.  But back in the good old days, the League of Women Voters moderated all debates.  It certainly brought out real issues and no planted questions.  They also closely followed rules of debate.

    What a great idea. So of course, no candidate will go there anymore just like the republicans won’t go on tavis smiley and the dems won’t go on fox.

  • G Davis

    I don’t mean to interrupt… I don’t mean to interrupt, but I’m a working farmer from Washington State and love reading what life’s like in the MidWest.

    I have a slight correction to your post anne…and Edwards should know this before he says it…

    He uses the example of firefighter couples who make around 100,000 a year so he wants to protect them from tax increases, right?  SS tax is based on each individual salary…what they make as a couple is irrelevant.  So his donut hole will do nothing for the firefighter couple.

    All that said, if there’s going to be any exceptions made, why not make the first 20,000 SS tax free and tax everyone over that at the same rate?  That would protect all the young people (students, young starting couples, etc), the really poor folks.  Seems a lot more fair to me, but then I can only dream about making 97,000 a year! ;0

    Thanks for letting me butt in.  I enjoy your blog!

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